[Foundation-l] more classical languages wikipedias approved by langcom and board of trustees.

[Chad]

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Andrew Whitworth <wknight8111 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Chad <innocentkiller at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The issue is that they're never given a chance to prove
>>> themselves. I'd rather a project try and fail than not try
>>> at all.
>>
>> NA lot of our volunteers spend a lot of time and energy to maintain,
>> fix, and cleanup these projects when they do fail. Our human resources
>> (Stewards, SWMT, etc) should be valuable enough to us that we don't
>> extend their workload for some random shot in the dark. A project
>> should have more then a glancing chance at success before we give it
>> the green light, or we're going to become a garbage heap of
>> unmaintainable failed projects.
>>
>> The Languages committee is usually pretty proud of the fact that since
>> they were created, not a single project that they've approved has died
>> or been closed as a failure. Far from throwing out all rules, we
>> should be looking to optimize their methods to reduce the number of
>> false negatives.
>
> There is nothing bad in trying to help to someone. At the other hand,
> need for localization, while, at one hand, is a bureaucratic measure,
> it is a reasonable measure to prove that project will be alive. BTW,
> adding 10 projects to ~650 (or even ~700) about stewards and SWMT care
> -- is not a lot.
>
> BUT, in this case Chad mentioned *Klingon*, a language created for
> pleasure, not for communication. Such language may become a useful
> one, but, today, it is not. Goals of WMF and people around it are not
> to increase someone's pleasure, but to help in human education.
>
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Klingon was a mistake and never should've been created
for that reason alone. When I talk about languages being
given a chance, I mean real languages.

Klingon otoh is a fictional language (which is constructed,
but notably different from Esperanto, in that it's designed
for fun and not actual communication, as you said). It
would be akin to launching projects in Quenya or Khûzdul.

-Chad