[Foundation-l] more classical languages wikipedias approved by langcom and board of trustees.

Milos Rancic millosh at gmail.com
Fri Sep 5 17:20:20 UTC 2008


On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Andrew Whitworth <wknight8111 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Chad <innocentkiller at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The issue is that they're never given a chance to prove
>> themselves. I'd rather a project try and fail than not try
>> at all.
>
> NA lot of our volunteers spend a lot of time and energy to maintain,
> fix, and cleanup these projects when they do fail. Our human resources
> (Stewards, SWMT, etc) should be valuable enough to us that we don't
> extend their workload for some random shot in the dark. A project
> should have more then a glancing chance at success before we give it
> the green light, or we're going to become a garbage heap of
> unmaintainable failed projects.
>
> The Languages committee is usually pretty proud of the fact that since
> they were created, not a single project that they've approved has died
> or been closed as a failure. Far from throwing out all rules, we
> should be looking to optimize their methods to reduce the number of
> false negatives.

There is nothing bad in trying to help to someone. At the other hand,
need for localization, while, at one hand, is a bureaucratic measure,
it is a reasonable measure to prove that project will be alive. BTW,
adding 10 projects to ~650 (or even ~700) about stewards and SWMT care
-- is not a lot.

BUT, in this case Chad mentioned *Klingon*, a language created for
pleasure, not for communication. Such language may become a useful
one, but, today, it is not. Goals of WMF and people around it are not
to increase someone's pleasure, but to help in human education.



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