[Foundation-l] Klassical Chinese

Mark Williamson node.ue at gmail.com
Thu Sep 4 16:06:58 UTC 2008


Sanskrit can do one better, they have native speakers (somebody in
another thread just said they didn't, not true!)

Mark

2008/9/4 Ziko van Dijk <zvandijk at googlemail.com>:
> There is a major difference between Latin and other "ancient
> languages": A neo Latin movement, Latinitas Viva, is actually using
> Latin as a modern language. They have conventicula (meetings), Grex
> latine loquentium (an internet forum) and modern literature and
> dictionaries. I don't see that in the case of, for example, ancient
> Greek.
> All Wikipedias in ancient languages I know - with the exception of
> Latin - are more or less dead.
> For ancient languages usually a Wikisource project is more suitable,
> though often the ancient forms of modern languages can be integrated
> into an existing Wikisource - like German Wikisource embraces also
> texts in ancient forms of German.
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
>
> 2008/9/4 Aphaia <aphaia at gmail.com>:
>> I remember the recent discussion about communication with a Polish
>> lady ... that is quite similar for me as Japanese with Classical
>> Chinese.
>>
>> Since we at Japan consider it part of our literature heritage, we
>> spare hours to learn it for years compulsory. I can read somehow
>> Classical Chinese, even better than modern one, besides I am not
>> familiar much with simplified characters and my skills in writing was
>> not as super as Meiji era people who could freely compose poems and
>> prose in Classical Chinese. And I sometimes used this knowledge to
>> communicate with Chinese whose language is of curse modern one (by
>> writing down of course).
>>
>> I am not familiar with the current zh-classic community, but if it is
>> live, we have no reason to shut it down as well as we now keep Latin
>> Wikipedia alive.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Ting Chen <wing.philopp at gmx.de> wrote:
>>> Tim Starling wrote:
>>>> Ting Chen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> since its creation I wondered why this happend. Why is there a classical
>>>>> chinese Wikipedia? This language has no native speakers and is not used
>>>>> by any relitious or official institution as official language.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Because at the time it was created, we had not yet given GerardM and his
>>>> team of rules lawyers the power to decide all wiki creation issues. There
>>>> was a sentiment that we as a community should make our own decisions on
>>>> language issues, rather than to delegate it to some standards body who
>>>> might not have similar interests at heart. And some people held the
>>>> opinion that while language study and preservation is not our core
>>>> mission, it'd be nice if it happened anyway, especially if there is no
>>>> significant cost to the organisation.
>>>>
>>>> -- Tim Starling
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> I totally agree with you on the issue of language conservation. Actually
>>> I had even thought about the possibility to use our wiki to do such
>>> things. I had read quite some articles for example on Scientific
>>> American about the problems of language conservation that the
>>> researchers are facing. And I think that wiki can be a technical way for
>>> them.
>>>
>>> But the classic chinese is another case. Classic chinese is a dead
>>> language, and to write about the modern Olympic games with such a
>>> language is simply original research. It has nothing to do with language
>>> conservation.
>>>
>>> Ting
>>>
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>>
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