[Foundation-l] SUL homewiki selection question

Anon Sricharoenchai anon.hui at gmail.com
Fri May 30 13:39:42 UTC 2008


On 5/30/08, Brion Vibber <brion at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Anon Sricharoenchai wrote:
>  > 5. In another situation,
>  >    1. Mr.A own user123 at frwikipedia: 50000 edits count
>  >    2. Mr.A has ever been approved to be sysop on frwikipedia, but at
>  > that time, he refuse to be sysop
>  >    3. Mr.B own user123 at lowikipedia: 10000 edits count
>  >    4. After SUL, user123 has not been merged by anyone
>  >    5. In someday later (after SUL), Mr.B has been elected to be sysop
>  > on lowikipedia
>  >    6. At that time (after Mr.B got sysop), who will get the homewiki?
>
>
> By default, it would go to Mr. B, as Mr. B has a privileged account
>  while Mr. A does not, and the heuristic gives preference to privileged
>  accounts if they exist.
>
>  If they choose to swap positions, that can be easily taken care of.
>

Why sysop should always take more precedence than user?
Mr.A may not want to be sysop, because he really want to have the same
equality as most other user.
Mr.A may believe and respect in equality of wikipedian, so he try to
be equal to others as much as possible.

>
>  > 6. The next situation,
>  >    1. Mr.A own user123 at frwikipedia: 50000 edits count
>  >    2. Mr.A has ever been approved to be sysop on frwikipedia, but at
>  > that time, he refuse to be sysop
>  >    3. Mr.B own user123 at lowikipedia: 10000 edits count
>  >    4. When SUL is enabled for sysop only,
>  >       4.1 Mr.A try to merge his account, but he can't, since he is not sysop
>  >       4.2 Mr.B is sysop on lowikipedia, and Mr.B successfully merge
>  > his user123 account (after Mr.A fail to merge)
>  >    5. When SUL is enabled for everyone, Mr.A try to merge his account
>  > again, but he got the message "user123 has already been merged by
>  > user123 at lowikipedia"!!!
>  >    6. Can Mr.A request steward to delete global account of Mr.B?
>
>
> Sure, he can ask. :)

However, after Mr.B is revoked global account, the home wiki is still
owned by Mr.B,
and only Mr.B can create global account again :(

>
>  Note that it would be rude for Mr. Steward to do so without the
>  agreement of Mr. B, who has legitimate claim to the account. But if they

What is legitimate?
Who can judge which one is legitimate?
Who can judge the sysop status and edit count is legitimate?

>  agree, or there is other very good reason to switch the account
>  ownership, it can be easily taken care of.
>



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