[Foundation-l] Dealing with interwiki disruption

[White Cat]

Yes I know all this. But for example for some issues often the system is
clogged

For example all English language projects should be briefed about disruption
on each other. That is disruption aside from vandalism.

I guess what I am looking for is an information portal of major cases of
disruption on all wikis. Ja.wikipedia will probably be unaware of
En.wikipedia issues such as the CAMERA incident.

A mailing list would not do the trick since we are looking at notes rather
than discussions. Help me out conceptualize.

    -White Cat

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:47 PM, mike.lifeguard <mike.lifeguard at gmail.com>
wrote:

> If you want better interwiki communication, then go do it. I can't agree
> more with that goal, but to make it work, users (esp. admins and CUs) need
> to go out and do it every day. For the most part, CUs /are/ doing this -
> that's what our mailing list is for. For admins, there is #wikimedia-admin,
> which is invite-only, but not hard to find someone to let you in. If you're
> not on IRC, then there is also drini's daylog
> (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Drini/daylog) and the vandalism
> noticeboard
> (
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Vandalism_reports#Current_cross_wiki_vandali
> sm).
>
> Perhaps setting up an additional mailing list for admins involved
> cross-wiki
> to mirror the IRC channel would be useful? The CUs have both, why not both
> for admins too? Perhaps it'd be better to have it limited to members of
> SWMT
> rather than just admins? That point might need more thought, but I think a
> mailing list where this kind of info can be shared could well be useful
> (more useful than #wikimedia-admin).
>
> Mike.lifeguard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: White Cat [mailto:wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com]
> Sent: May 6, 2008 1:23 AM
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Dealing with interwiki disruption
>
> Exactly and the local community wasn't completely oblivious to Poetlisters
> conduct back on English wikipedia. He was carefully watched, tutored and
> polished to what he is now. His own effort was vital, no doubt, but he
> wasn't unguided.
>
> What I am suggesting is not an Interwiki Police, I would be the first in
> line to oppose that. What I am suggesting is better communication between
> wikis. The arrogant tone between wikis should be abolished.
>
> What I seek is better information sharing between wikis. I should not need
> to pay attention to individual noticeboards and block logs of every wiki.
> Intense cases of disruption should be noted in the same site.
>
> For example checkuser info on indef blocked user should be shared among
> checkusers. If user 'A' is banned on wiki 'X' and then decides to register
> the account 'B' on the wiki 'Y' the local community should be prepared for
> it.
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Wily D <wilydoppelganger at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Indeed, just yesterday Poetlister was unblocked on en.wikipedia, at
> > least partly based on her long history of good conduct at Wikiquote.
> > One of the canonical ways to get unbanned is to go to another project
> > and behave.
> >
> > WilyD
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Chad <innocentkiller at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Can't wait for the politics of that one.
> > >
> > >  Community 1: Block him! UserABC was bad here!
> > >  Community 2: He's a highly productive user here.
> > >
> > >  I'm sure we can all imagine how that'd end up.
> > >
> > >  -Chad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net>
> > wrote:
> > >  > White Cat wrote:
> > >  >  > Look let me give a real-life example. Say you commit a crime in
> > the US, if
> > >  >  > you were to escape to Mexico you would freely roam aaround
> because
> > you have
> > >  >  > not done anything wrong there.
> > >  >  >
> > >  >  > Each individual wiki is independent yes, but we need a level of
> > >  >  > communication among wikis. Like between fr.wikipedia and
> > fr.wikibooks or
> > >  >  > en.wiktionary and simple.wikipedia, same language sister project.
> > >  >  Ah! Something like interwiki extradition. :-)
> > >  >
> > >  >  Ec
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
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