[Foundation-l] Dealing with interwiki disruption

[mike.lifeguard]

If you want better interwiki communication, then go do it. I can't agree
more with that goal, but to make it work, users (esp. admins and CUs) need
to go out and do it every day. For the most part, CUs /are/ doing this -
that's what our mailing list is for. For admins, there is #wikimedia-admin,
which is invite-only, but not hard to find someone to let you in. If you're
not on IRC, then there is also drini's daylog
(http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Drini/daylog) and the vandalism
noticeboard
(http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Vandalism_reports#Current_cross_wiki_vandali
sm).

Perhaps setting up an additional mailing list for admins involved cross-wiki
to mirror the IRC channel would be useful? The CUs have both, why not both
for admins too? Perhaps it'd be better to have it limited to members of SWMT
rather than just admins? That point might need more thought, but I think a
mailing list where this kind of info can be shared could well be useful
(more useful than #wikimedia-admin).

Mike.lifeguard

-----Original Message-----
From: White Cat [mailto:wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com] 
Sent: May 6, 2008 1:23 AM
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Dealing with interwiki disruption

Exactly and the local community wasn't completely oblivious to Poetlisters
conduct back on English wikipedia. He was carefully watched, tutored and
polished to what he is now. His own effort was vital, no doubt, but he
wasn't unguided.

What I am suggesting is not an Interwiki Police, I would be the first in
line to oppose that. What I am suggesting is better communication between
wikis. The arrogant tone between wikis should be abolished.

What I seek is better information sharing between wikis. I should not need
to pay attention to individual noticeboards and block logs of every wiki.
Intense cases of disruption should be noted in the same site.

For example checkuser info on indef blocked user should be shared among
checkusers. If user 'A' is banned on wiki 'X' and then decides to register
the account 'B' on the wiki 'Y' the local community should be prepared for
it.

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Wily D <wilydoppelganger at gmail.com> wrote:

> Indeed, just yesterday Poetlister was unblocked on en.wikipedia, at
> least partly based on her long history of good conduct at Wikiquote.
> One of the canonical ways to get unbanned is to go to another project
> and behave.
>
> WilyD
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Chad <innocentkiller at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Can't wait for the politics of that one.
> >
> >  Community 1: Block him! UserABC was bad here!
> >  Community 2: He's a highly productive user here.
> >
> >  I'm sure we can all imagine how that'd end up.
> >
> >  -Chad
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net>
> wrote:
> >  > White Cat wrote:
> >  >  > Look let me give a real-life example. Say you commit a crime in
> the US, if
> >  >  > you were to escape to Mexico you would freely roam aaround because
> you have
> >  >  > not done anything wrong there.
> >  >  >
> >  >  > Each individual wiki is independent yes, but we need a level of
> >  >  > communication among wikis. Like between fr.wikipedia and
> fr.wikibooks or
> >  >  > en.wiktionary and simple.wikipedia, same language sister project.
> >  >  Ah! Something like interwiki extradition. :-)
> >  >
> >  >  Ec
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
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