[Foundation-l] Chapter-selected Board seats - brainstorming
Pharos
pharosofalexandria at gmail.com
Sun May 4 02:23:25 UTC 2008
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Dan Rosenthal <swatjester at gmail.com> wrote:
> Besides, that's what
> the chapter creation guide suggests. There's no reason not to create a
> corporate entity that I can see.
The primary (if not only) reason we have separate copororate entities
internationally is because a US-based foundation can only create
affiliates within the US.
I can only see a huge waste of resources in creating 5 or 10 new
corporate entities in the US, when the one we have now works just
fine.
Thanks,
Pharos
> On May 3, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Pharos wrote:
>
> > On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Dan Rosenthal <swatjester at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Given that the WMF is aware of the issues facing incorporation in
> >> different states and the difficulties set up as such, combined with
> >> the fact that we already have 3 in development chapters from 3 major
> >> metropolitan regions, I'm personally willing to bet that a "one
> >> nation
> >> one chapter" rule would at the very least have to have an exception
> >> for the US and other large countries with dispersed metropolitan
> >> centers. Due to the highly sovereign nature of the several states,
> >> compared with their massive size difference compared to Europe, I
> >> don't see any other choice.
> >
> > Dan, I don't see why we shouldn't organize as autonomous "affiliates".
> > This will give us the full tax advantages of a non-profit (because of
> > our connection to WMF), without even having to become incorporated.
> >
> > If we have to vote for chapter seats on the Board or anything else, we
> > can just pool our votes.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Pharos
> >
> >> On May 3, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Anthony wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Gerard Meijssen
> >>> <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hoi,
> >>>> Countries in Europe have states too.
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> GerardM
> >>>>
> >>> I don't deny that, though I do wonder if we're using the same
> >>> sense of
> >>> the term "state". I don't mean to include mere administrative
> >>> divisions.
> >>>
> >>> US states have their own laws, their own income and sales taxes, and
> >>> they each handle incorporation separately. In fact, a corporation
> >>> which does business in more than one state has to keep separate
> >>> accounting for each state and file as a foreign corporation in each
> >>> state apart from the first. There are, as Sebastian questioned,
> >>> significant legal, if not tax, advantages to having a separate
> >>> organization in each state.
> >>>
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