[Foundation-l] Muhammad

[Birgitte SB]

I have not looked into the Mohamed images very much
because of the sheer volume of material to read.  But
it may be useful to point out a successful compromise
I  was involved on a similar issue regarding LDS
Temple Garments.[1] The compromise was that the people
modeling the garments were photoshoped out.  Of course
the LDS member's first choice was to have no image at
all, but all of them participating felt it was less
offensive after the alteration and the situation was
calmer.  I do not know how much can be done to make
the images of Mohamed less offensive while still
displaying them. But suggestions about verifying these
images and using different filenames are a good place
to start.

[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Garment.jpg
--- White Cat <wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com> wrote:

> I really thing the Mohhamed controversy has been
> going on for far too long
> because of the close-mindness of both sides. Wiki
> supposed to be free.
> Consensus is often defined as "reaching an
> agreement" or compromise. We have
> one side who is desperately tying/fighting to keep
> the image of Mohammed off
> the article, we also have another side that is
> desperately trying to keep
> the image of Mohammed in the article. Both sides are
> being no better than
> each other.
> 
> Now I can understand why clear newbies are acting
> like this, they do not
> know any better. What I cannot comprehend is why
> oldies are acting like
> this. People should be seeking a compromise, not
> waging a war.
> 
> That is all there is to it. This one OTRS email
> shows an understanding of
> the way we do things on wikipedia both sides of the
> dispute failed to
> demonstrate.
> 
>     - White Cat
> 
> 2008/3/3 Florence Devouard <Anthere9 at yahoo.com>:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > We received an email on OTRS. I'll copy it in its
> entirety here for
> > consideration, and will do a very simple
> translation. I think the
> > proposal is interesting to reflect on.
> >
> > ---------
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I receive a lot of petition regarding the removal
> of our prophet.
> >
> > I am myself against the removal, because it shows
> how the friday prayer
> > is important for muslims.
> >
> > However, it so happens that the man on the image
> represents not the
> > prophet, but an imam (Ali, since the image is from
> Persia). In various
> > descriptions of our prophet, it was said that he
> had a very long beard
> > and it could be seen when he was talking very
> softly because his beard
> > was moving (which was not the case of Ali).
> >
> > May I suggest a solution ?
> > - Change of the name of the picture to islam.jpg
> instead of mohamet.jpg
> > - Change of the description which could say
> something like "groups of
> > muslims during the friday prayer in ancient times
> (date ?)"
> >
> > I love your encyclopedia for its richness, and
> conflict leads to
> > nowhere. It is sometimes necessary to concede
> things, both from readers
> > and from editors. But if a group is disturbed by
> something to the point
> > of requesting removal, then it means the solution
> chosen is not the good
> > one.
> > I thank you for creating such a rich and free
> encyclopedia, and thank
> > you for reading me.
> >
> > Bennani M.
> >
> > ---------
> >
> > Bonjour,
> >
> > Ces jour-ci, je reçois beaucoup de pétition à
> propos de la suppression
> > d'une
> > photo de notre prophète.
> >
> > Personnellement  je suis contre l'enlèvement de
> cette photo car elle
> > montre
> > l'assiduité des musulmans lors de la prière du
> vendredi.
> >
> > Parodi des choses, lors d'une recherche, il se
> trouve que l'homme en
> > question sur le « mihrabe » représente non pas le
> prophète mais un imam
> > (Ali
> > vu que le tableau est persan ) ,car parmi les
> différentes description du
> > prophète , il a était di qu'il avait une barbe
> longue et on pouvait le
> > voir
> > murmuré de derrière en voyant simplement les bouts
> de sa barbe bouger
> > (contrairement à Ali) .
> >
> > Personnellement, je me permet de proposer une
> petite solution :
> >
> >    - changement du nom de la photo en islam.jpg au
> lieu de mohamet.jpg
> >    - Changement de la description en disant «
> Groupe de musulman lors de
> >    la prière du vendredi au première aire de
> l'islam
> >
> > Car personnellement j'adore votre encyclopédie
> pour ces richesses, et un
> > tel
> > accident ca arrive ,le but étant de ne pas enfoncé
> les gents, ni de  faire
> > un bras de fer ,ces actions ne mèneront à rein.
> >
> > pour le développement des connaissances , il faut
> faire des sacrifices
> > tant
> > pour l'éditeur que pour les lecteurs , mais si un
> groupe est dérangé par
> > une
> > chose autant l'enlevé car si on prend tellement 
> de mal à garder une chose
> > c'est que c'est pas la bonne solution qu'on a ici.
> >
> > Je vous remercie , pour avoir mis au monde une
> encyclopédie aussi riche
> > gratuitement pour tous le monde et je vous
> remercie encore une foie
> > d'avoir
> > lu mon message merci.
> >
> > Nb : merci de me donner une réponse « que se soit
> favorable ou défavorable
> > »
> >
> >
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