[Foundation-l] Concern for the safety of Wikimedians at Wikimania in Alexandria.

Dan Rosenthal swatjester at gmail.com
Tue Mar 4 02:12:55 UTC 2008


I don't think we can stipulate that the conference will not be  
substantially changed (be it moved, cancelled, etc).

-Dan
On Mar 3, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Nathan wrote:

> I don't think so. My post said that further discussion should be  
> focused on
> tools to assist individuals with their personal safety. If some are  
> planning
> to go Egypt and have concerns, there are concrete steps to take that  
> do not
> involve Foundation-l. We can accept that there is more danger in  
> holding the
> conference in Egypt than in Seattle, and we can also stipulate that  
> despite
> this the conference will not be moved based on this thread. Therefore,
> constructive discussion will have to be in one of two categories: (1)
> Suggesting and assisting with preparation prior to the conference  
> and (2)
> suggestions on how to more fully incorporate security concerns into  
> future
> decisions. Since Brisbane, Karlsruhe, Buenos Aires and Toronto are
> relatively safe cities in relatively safe countries these  
> suggestions must
> of course focus on 2010. Given that 2010 is three Wikimanias away,  
> it makes
> sense that this discussion could be postponed.
>
> So, based on the above... Not withdrawing any part of my post except  
> where I
> suggested no one had expressed a personal fear. I would direct  
> Phillipe to
> the beginning of the first thread, where nearly all good  
> recommendations for
> ensuring ones personal safety were posted.
>
> Nathan
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 7:42 PM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> On 04/03/2008, Nathan <nawrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No one on any of these threads (that I recall) has expressed a  
>>> fear for
>>> their own personal safety.
>>
>>
>> False; Philip Beaudette has said precisely this, and he's not the  
>> only
>> one. Thus, the rest of your post should be withdrawn.
>>
>>
>> - d.
>>
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