[Foundation-l] An observation on languages

[Nathan]

Some people (like me!) may not realize their posting habits to this
list make it difficult for others to follow along or contribute
constructively. If you see someone who is posting in good faith but
may not realize they are exacerbating a problem, the easiest thing to
do is to let them know (and then ignore them after!).

Nathan

On Jan 25, 2008 9:49 AM, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I would encourage people who feel this way to set up
> their mail to ignore those that they find too often
> heated and/or off-topic.  If there is a thread that
> really interests me, I tend to read it through the
> archives to make sure I don't miss anything.  But even
> just having two people ignored makes this mailing list
> a different place.  And then maybe it will be easier
> to reply on-topic as you won't realize so much has
> been said.
>
> Birgitte SB
>
>
>
> --- Jerome Banal <jerome.banal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Seconded.
> >
> > The only things I feel comfortable posting here are
> > 2 lines long answers or
> > are answers to post that are left unanswered since
> > several hours.
> > Coming with a thoughtful/insightful answer takes
> > time, but in the mean time
> > you can be sure that 10 mails will have been posted
> > on the thread, posts
> > that you will need to read to make sure you are not
> > making a redundant post
> > or missing an important idea. And often, the subject
> > has drifted so far that
> > such a post would seems by then off-topic compared
> > to the heated posts of
> > that time.
> >
> > So I think most peoples now remain silent and just
> > try to keep themselves
> > informed but do not voice their opinions as it feels
> > a waste of time.
> >
> > And I live in England, so the language is not even
> > much a problem for me.
> > Just imagine peoples for which this list is the main
> > daily contact with
> > English language...
> >
> > Jerome
> >
> >
> > 2008/1/25, Delphine Ménard <notafishz at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > On Jan 25, 2008 6:10 AM,  <daniwo59 at aol.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > Looking over this list for the past couple of
> > months, several key issues
> > > > have been discussed. I notice, however, that
> > most of the discussion is
> > > by
> > > > members of the English projects, with the
> > notable exception of Gerard.
> > > In
> > > > comparison, two years ago on Foundation-l and
> > three and four years ago
> > > on  Wikipedia-l
> > > > (pre-Foundation-l), there was much more vigorous
> > participation from
> > > > representatives of other projects. In fact, that
> > is what made Wikipedia
> > > a truly
> > > > international organization.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder where so many of the participants of
> > those discussions have
> > > > drifted. Is the discussion taking place on
> > chapter lists, at the expense
> > > of  the
> > > > Foundation umbrella, or is it taking place on
> > internal-l, at the expense
> > > of
> > > > transparency.
> > >
> > > As far as I can make out, neither.
> > >
> > > I'd have one explanation though. There comes a
> > point where reading in
> > > a language that is not yours, on a list that
> > sprouts an average of 20
> > > emails of more than 2 pages a day, very often on a
> > level of English
> > > that is hard to follow, just prevents one, as a
> > non-English speaker,
> > > from participating. I consider myself as having a
> > rather good level of
> > > English, but sorry, when you get a thread
> > dominated by lengthy English
> > > speakers, I just give up.
> > >
> > > Apart from that, I find that people who have
> > little to say on a
> > > subject, or who actually answer "on the side", are
> > somehow also too
> > > present, and answer faster than their shadow [1],
> > often depleting a
> > > thread of its substance in the very first emails
> > to veer towards
> > > uninteresting side conversations, or even
> > considerations that have
> > > nothing to do with the subject at hand. Which, for
> > those who might
> > > have something to say about a subject but need a
> > little time to
> > > formulate their answer, means that they'd be going
> > back to a dead
> > > thread when they're ready to participate.
> > >
> > > To summarize: Level of English and fast pace of
> > the list. I would
> > > personally not look further for an explanation.
> > >
> > > Delphine
> > > [1] see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Luke
> > > --
> > > ~notafish
> > > http://blog.notanendive.org
> > >
> > > NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists.
> > Personal emails sent
> > > to this address will probably get lost.
> > >
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