[Foundation-l] Reply to Mark

Mark Williamson node.ue at gmail.com
Tue Feb 26 13:41:59 UTC 2008

I agree with Gatto Nero that this is an issue. As a gay man, this all
concerns me very much. The way that peoples' concerns have been pushed
aside is inappropriate at best.

Peoples' concerns should be addressed in a respectful way. If it is
not possible or a reasonable suggestion anymore to change the venue,
people will understand this, IF and WHEN you show some care for their
safety and address it in detail.


On 26/02/2008, Gatto Nero <gattonero at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
>  >  > So we can just not go to Wikimania, or we can decide that the benefits
>  >  > for us outweigh the risks. It is a tough decision, but we will have to
>  >  > make it. And if we don't go this year, we can show up next year, or
>  >  > the one after that.
>  >  Thank you for being realistic  At some point a decision has to be made,
>  >  and we can't afford to look back on the decision with regrets.  We can't
>  >  build a good conference if the organizers' time is so taken up by
>  >  rear-guard actions.  The Toronto people could not have been very happy
>  >  when Boston won with a late bid.  The Turin people were upset when they
>  >  lost to Taipei.  I personally favour Buenos Aires for 2009, but I'm not
>  >  going to make an issue of it if another city gets that Wikimania.
> Don't combine apples and oranges (we say so in Italy): don't reopen
>  all the "other wikimanias" issues, it's better.
>  By the way, I'm sorry to read - again - that people complaining about
>  their safety (or the way WMF faced some problems like "freedom of
>  speech", "freedom of thought" or "freedom of sexuality") are simply
>  "irrealistic".
>  Next step is "they're troll" (yet said by someone, thanks).
>  Is this respect?
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