[Foundation-l] possible reconsideration, unifying criterion

[Crazy Lover]

"Jesse Martin (Pathoschild)" <pathoschild at gmail.com> wrote:  Hello Crazy Lover,

The lack of an ISO 639 code for modern usage of Ancient Greek is only
one argument, and not necessarily one I put much weight on. The policy
requires that a language have living native communities to read the
wiki, and that is my personal position as well. There has been a lot
of discussion on this list about this requirement recently, but no
consensus on any change to it and no similarly objective workable
alternatives.

The subcommittee does not make exceptions to the policy, so discussion
should focus on the policy rather than on exempting particular
requests.

-- 
Yours cordially,
Jesse Plamondon-Willard (Pathoschild)

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  well, i will clarify my propose.
   
  my intention is not propose exception. it's unifying the policy
   
  1.- for create a wikipedia is necessary languages that have a standarized writing system more than speaking people. literated people in those languages. if a language doesn't have writing it's imposible to start a wikipedia, not interesting the number of speaker it have. previously they must create a standard writing system.
   
  2.- if we review the original policy:
   
   
  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_subcommittee/Archives/Policy
  <<<<<
  Languages    
   Can there be wikis in ancient languages?     
      Yes. There are already wikis available in Latin, Old English, Gothic and Pali. 
    
   Can there be wikis in artificial languages?     
      Yes. There are already wikis available in Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, Interlingue, Lojban, Volapük and Novial. See the relevant note under the prerequisites for cautionary information about fictional languages. 
    
   How many speakers are necessary?     
      There should be enough speakers to form a viable community and audience. Whether a particular language qualifies depends on discussion. 
  >>>>>
   
  and the news:
   
   
   
  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Language_proposal_policy
  <<<<<
  Languages    
   Can there be wikis in ancient or historical languages?     
      Only Wikisource wikis in ancient or historical languages are accepted, because there are no living native communities to use other resources. Where possible, such languages should be bundled with the modern equivalent (such as Old English with English), though that is not required. 
    
   Can there be wikis in artificial languages?     
      Yes. There are already wikis available in Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, Interlingue, Lojban, Volapük and Novial. See the relevant note under the prerequisites for cautionary information about fictional languages. 
    
   How many speakers are necessary?     
      There should be enough speakers to form a viable community and audience. Whether a particular language qualifies depends on discussion. 
  >>>>>
   
  there is an incongruity. because in the first question it is required native speakers. and in the second they are relieved of that.
   
  that, i think does more than strengthen the [1] argument: a writing language enough known rather than native speaking.
   
  3.- in this regard, i proposed a simplified a unique criterion:
   
  <<<<<
  Languages
   
  * what kind of languages can have wikis?
   
  any that has a standarized writing system and enough writers and readers to form a viable community and audience. whether a particular language qualifies depends on discussion.
  >>>>>
   
  What do you things? and a better propose?
   
   

       
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