[Foundation-l] When is a Wikipedia not a Wikipedia ?

[Mark Williamson]

The problem with the whole situation is that I would hate to risk
breaking existing links to the project.

Certainly, I do not object to changing the domain, but only with a
redirect. But then, als.wp should ideally be a redirect to sq.wp (Tosk
and Standard Albanian are nearly identical), but I am very much
worried about breaking any existing links.

Mark

On 14/04/2008, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hoi,
>  There is no question of starting a new project. For your information, the
>  localisation is currently at 34.08% for the MediaWiki messages and 1.51% for
>  the messages used in extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation. There has
>  been recent activity on the localisation into Allemanic..
>  http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&namespace=8&trailer=/gswOne
>  option is that people consider that this is NOT a wikipedia and as a
>  consequence should not be called Wikipedia. As David Gerard suggested, it
>  could be called Wikicompendium ...
>
>  This is not a vote, and I do not express an opinion either way.
>
>  What I do think that this is an excellent moment to change this project from
>  als.wikipedia.org to gsw.wikipedia.org
>
>  Thanks,
>     GerardM
>
>  On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Andrew Whitworth <wknight8111 at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>
>
>  > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Gerard Meijssen
>  > <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > > When you go from one Wikipedia <http://wikipedia.org/> to the next, you
>  > >  always expect an encyclopaedia. You expect things to be largely the
>  > same but
>  > >  in a different language. According to Bugzilla bug
>  > >  13578<https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13578>,
>  > >  this is something that will change. The Alemannic community have found
>  > that
>  > >  having a Wikipedia, a Wikibooks, a Wiktionary and a Wikiquote is more
>  > then
>  > >  they can chew off.
>  > >
>  > >  What the Alemannic community has decided is to fold all the projects
>  > into
>  > >  their Wikipedia and have separate name spaces for the content of their
>  > old
>  > >  projects.  Their communities seem to have
>  >
>  > This seems perfectly acceptable to me. However, as a Wikibookian, I
>  > can still remember the time when we were sharing server space with
>  > Wikiversity. As an interesting piece of information, more then a few
>  > people have suggested merging the two projects back together. I don't
>  > want to say it's a majority opinion, but it's heard occasionally
>  > nonetheless.
>  >
>  > Think of this single combined project as a sort of "Alemmanic-only
>  > Incubator". I don't think we need to restrict something like this when
>  > it's what the Alemmanic speakers want. If they as a community want to
>  > benefit from a dictionary and books and an encyclopedia, but don't
>  > have the manpower to support multiple individual projects, then it
>  > seems reasonable to combine projects together to be more managable.
>  > The only drawback I can see, and one for which I don't attribute much
>  > importance, is that using only one project they might not reach the
>  > stringent localization requirements of second projects. I don't really
>  > care about this, and we shouldn't demand more localization before we
>  > grant them new namespaces.
>  >
>  > My vote: let them do it.
>  >
>  > --Andrew Whitworth
>  >
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