[Foundation-l] When is a Wikipedia not a Wikipedia ?

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Mon Apr 14 11:50:58 UTC 2008


Hoi,
There is no question of starting a new project. For your information, the
localisation is currently at 34.08% for the MediaWiki messages and 1.51% for
the messages used in extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation. There has
been recent activity on the localisation into Allemanic..
http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&namespace=8&trailer=/gswOne
option is that people consider that this is NOT a wikipedia and as a
consequence should not be called Wikipedia. As David Gerard suggested, it
could be called Wikicompendium ...

This is not a vote, and I do not express an opinion either way.

What I do think that this is an excellent moment to change this project from
als.wikipedia.org to gsw.wikipedia.org

Thanks,
    GerardM

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Andrew Whitworth <wknight8111 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Gerard Meijssen
> <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > When you go from one Wikipedia <http://wikipedia.org/> to the next, you
> >  always expect an encyclopaedia. You expect things to be largely the
> same but
> >  in a different language. According to Bugzilla bug
> >  13578<https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13578>,
> >  this is something that will change. The Alemannic community have found
> that
> >  having a Wikipedia, a Wikibooks, a Wiktionary and a Wikiquote is more
> then
> >  they can chew off.
> >
> >  What the Alemannic community has decided is to fold all the projects
> into
> >  their Wikipedia and have separate name spaces for the content of their
> old
> >  projects.  Their communities seem to have
>
> This seems perfectly acceptable to me. However, as a Wikibookian, I
> can still remember the time when we were sharing server space with
> Wikiversity. As an interesting piece of information, more then a few
> people have suggested merging the two projects back together. I don't
> want to say it's a majority opinion, but it's heard occasionally
> nonetheless.
>
> Think of this single combined project as a sort of "Alemmanic-only
> Incubator". I don't think we need to restrict something like this when
> it's what the Alemmanic speakers want. If they as a community want to
> benefit from a dictionary and books and an encyclopedia, but don't
> have the manpower to support multiple individual projects, then it
> seems reasonable to combine projects together to be more managable.
> The only drawback I can see, and one for which I don't attribute much
> importance, is that using only one project they might not reach the
> stringent localization requirements of second projects. I don't really
> care about this, and we shouldn't demand more localization before we
> grant them new namespaces.
>
> My vote: let them do it.
>
> --Andrew Whitworth
>
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