[Foundation-l] Ancient

Mark Williamson node.ue at gmail.com
Mon Apr 14 09:29:15 UTC 2008


One thing I appreciate about Jesse Martin's activities in the language
committee is that he aims for transparency. It seems every member of
the subcommittee - besides Gerard M. -  has agreed to the public
archival of their messages.

However, I am certainly curious, Jesse has characterized working for
the LC as fraught with lengthy discussions... where?

I can see that Jesse has done a lot of work, but looking here:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_subcommittee/Archives/2008-02

It appears that the vast majority of the posts come from Jesse or
Gerard, with some additional opinions from Sabine and Berto, but most
members seem to just chime in to concur with proposals or object.

I'm not trying to say that members should not be weighing in more with
their own opinions, but rather that if you consider the average
contribution to discussions of anybody besides Jesse and Gerard, it
seems rather easy a job.

Perhaps Jesse is detailing his own experience.

Mark

On 14/04/2008, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org> wrote:
> This perhaps might be better stated as Dovi wishing to see more LangCom
>  people active here, although from Jesse's comments that might make the
>  entire process too onerous for committee members.
>
>
>
>  Brian
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mark
>  Williamson
>  Sent: 14 April 2008 05:02
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>  Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Ancient
>
>
> >  anyone other than yourself has a valid argument. You assert that the
>  basis
>  >  for your position is the unstated guidelines to which the language
>  committee
>  >  allegedly works.
>
>  It is worth noting that in Gerard M's (he got angry last time I used
>  his surname, even though it is used in some ML messages) many months
>  of doing this in many messages, Jesse Martin, another member of the
>  committee, has often challenged his interpretation of the guidelines,
>  or suggested that he was expressing his own opinion as if it were a
>  guideline.
>
>  Gerard, Dovi asked you how membership is decided. Dovi said, and I
>  quote: "I would like to see more voices and greater diversity of
>  opinion on it", which to me implies Dovi would like to see more
>  members, though not necessarily him/herself.
>
>  Mark
>
>
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