[Foundation-l] Allow new wikis in extinct languages?

White Cat wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com
Sun Apr 6 15:59:17 UTC 2008


<sarcasm>

My God! People may put original research on a wiki! Let's shut down English
wikipedia!

</sarcasm>

    - White Cat

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hoi,
> I do not buy into your argument.  People DO make up new vocabulary and in
> my
> opinion that is a sufficient argument.
> Thanks,
>     GerardM
>
> On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > We've had this discussion, and your best rebuttal to my argument was
> > that Navajo is not an extinct language... that is a logical fallacy,
> > you did not argue successfully or even at all against the idea of
> > using descriptive phrases rather than creating new words to refer to
> > new concepts. Instead, you continued to rail on against ancient
> > languages.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On 05/04/2008, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hoi,
> > >  The argument against new wikipedias in extinct or ancient languages
> is
> > that
> > >  as a consequence of their status new vocabulary prevents the writing
> of
> > a
> > >  modern encyclopaedia. With the creation of neologisms you change the
> > >  language to the extend that it no longer IS that language.
> > >
> > >  This has nothing to do with the relevance of the language but
> > everything
> > >  with the historic accuracy of that language. People that read all
> this
> > >  modern terminology will expect that as a consequence they are
> learning
> > the
> > >  language while in fact they will not truly do this. Latin is in my
> > opinion
> > >  different in that it has seen continued use and the Vatican does
> > publish a
> > >  dictionary with neologisms (new in relation to the classical Latin).
> > >
> > >  When it can be proven that there has been a continued use, it would
> not
> > >  surprise me that this is true for Sanskrit, I would personally
> > re-evaluate
> > >  my position and consider an exception to this rule.
> > >  Thanks,
> > >      GerardM
> > >
> > >  On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Crazy Lover <
> > always_yours.forever at yahoo.com>
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >  > I noticed that the present discussion started  as an answer to the
> > >  > rejection of the ancient greek wikipedia. and i haven't seen a hard
> > defence
> > >  > like this project.
> > >  >  i think is due to the ancient greek is always a special case. as
> the
> > >  > quote of Edward Sapir found   in the classical language article of
> > >  > wikipedia; the ancient greek is with latin, classical chinese,
> arabic
> > and
> > >  > sanskrit is the foundation of all the culture of the whole world,
> > >  > and the modern world refers to them, all the time.
> > >  >
> > >  > I ask to the subcommitte:
> > >  >
> > >  >  if the discussion provide good reason to the project of ancient
> > language.
> > >  > it's possible a reconsideration of the rejection of ancient greek
> > Wikipedia,
> > >  > and others projects of ancient language like classical japanese or
> > ottomanic
> > >  > turkish that were proposed, too?.
> > >  >
> > >  > J. case
> > >  >
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