[Foundation-l] Allow new wikis in extinct languages?
White Cat
wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com
Sun Apr 6 15:59:17 UTC 2008
<sarcasm>
My God! People may put original research on a wiki! Let's shut down English
wikipedia!
</sarcasm>
- White Cat
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hoi,
> I do not buy into your argument. People DO make up new vocabulary and in
> my
> opinion that is a sufficient argument.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > We've had this discussion, and your best rebuttal to my argument was
> > that Navajo is not an extinct language... that is a logical fallacy,
> > you did not argue successfully or even at all against the idea of
> > using descriptive phrases rather than creating new words to refer to
> > new concepts. Instead, you continued to rail on against ancient
> > languages.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On 05/04/2008, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hoi,
> > > The argument against new wikipedias in extinct or ancient languages
> is
> > that
> > > as a consequence of their status new vocabulary prevents the writing
> of
> > a
> > > modern encyclopaedia. With the creation of neologisms you change the
> > > language to the extend that it no longer IS that language.
> > >
> > > This has nothing to do with the relevance of the language but
> > everything
> > > with the historic accuracy of that language. People that read all
> this
> > > modern terminology will expect that as a consequence they are
> learning
> > the
> > > language while in fact they will not truly do this. Latin is in my
> > opinion
> > > different in that it has seen continued use and the Vatican does
> > publish a
> > > dictionary with neologisms (new in relation to the classical Latin).
> > >
> > > When it can be proven that there has been a continued use, it would
> not
> > > surprise me that this is true for Sanskrit, I would personally
> > re-evaluate
> > > my position and consider an exception to this rule.
> > > Thanks,
> > > GerardM
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Crazy Lover <
> > always_yours.forever at yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > I noticed that the present discussion started as an answer to the
> > > > rejection of the ancient greek wikipedia. and i haven't seen a hard
> > defence
> > > > like this project.
> > > > i think is due to the ancient greek is always a special case. as
> the
> > > > quote of Edward Sapir found in the classical language article of
> > > > wikipedia; the ancient greek is with latin, classical chinese,
> arabic
> > and
> > > > sanskrit is the foundation of all the culture of the whole world,
> > > > and the modern world refers to them, all the time.
> > > >
> > > > I ask to the subcommitte:
> > > >
> > > > if the discussion provide good reason to the project of ancient
> > language.
> > > > it's possible a reconsideration of the rejection of ancient greek
> > Wikipedia,
> > > > and others projects of ancient language like classical japanese or
> > ottomanic
> > > > turkish that were proposed, too?.
> > > >
> > > > J. case
> > > >
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