[Foundation-l] Allow new wikis in extinct languages?

Mark Williamson node.ue at gmail.com
Sun Apr 6 05:39:19 UTC 2008


Again, where is your proof? I asked you to give examples, and you gave none.

Mark

On 05/04/2008, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hoi,
>  I do not buy into your argument.  People DO make up new vocabulary and in my
>  opinion that is a sufficient argument.
>  Thanks,
>      GerardM
>
>
>  On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  > We've had this discussion, and your best rebuttal to my argument was
>  > that Navajo is not an extinct language... that is a logical fallacy,
>  > you did not argue successfully or even at all against the idea of
>  > using descriptive phrases rather than creating new words to refer to
>  > new concepts. Instead, you continued to rail on against ancient
>  > languages.
>  >
>  > Mark
>  >
>  > On 05/04/2008, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > > Hoi,
>  > >  The argument against new wikipedias in extinct or ancient languages is
>  > that
>  > >  as a consequence of their status new vocabulary prevents the writing of
>  > a
>  > >  modern encyclopaedia. With the creation of neologisms you change the
>  > >  language to the extend that it no longer IS that language.
>  > >
>  > >  This has nothing to do with the relevance of the language but
>  > everything
>  > >  with the historic accuracy of that language. People that read all this
>  > >  modern terminology will expect that as a consequence they are learning
>  > the
>  > >  language while in fact they will not truly do this. Latin is in my
>  > opinion
>  > >  different in that it has seen continued use and the Vatican does
>  > publish a
>  > >  dictionary with neologisms (new in relation to the classical Latin).
>  > >
>  > >  When it can be proven that there has been a continued use, it would not
>  > >  surprise me that this is true for Sanskrit, I would personally
>  > re-evaluate
>  > >  my position and consider an exception to this rule.
>  > >  Thanks,
>  > >      GerardM
>  > >
>  > >  On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Crazy Lover <
>  > always_yours.forever at yahoo.com>
>  > >  wrote:
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  > I noticed that the present discussion started  as an answer to the
>  > >  > rejection of the ancient greek wikipedia. and i haven't seen a hard
>  > defence
>  > >  > like this project.
>  > >  >  i think is due to the ancient greek is always a special case. as the
>  > >  > quote of Edward Sapir found   in the classical language article of
>  > >  > wikipedia; the ancient greek is with latin, classical chinese, arabic
>  > and
>  > >  > sanskrit is the foundation of all the culture of the whole world,
>  > >  > and the modern world refers to them, all the time.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > I ask to the subcommitte:
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  if the discussion provide good reason to the project of ancient
>  > language.
>  > >  > it's possible a reconsideration of the rejection of ancient greek
>  > Wikipedia,
>  > >  > and others projects of ancient language like classical japanese or
>  > ottomanic
>  > >  > turkish that were proposed, too?.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > J. case
>  > >  >
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