[Foundation-l] Allow new wikis in extinct languages?
Mark Williamson
node.ue at gmail.com
Wed Apr 2 19:40:44 UTC 2008
Seconded.
On 02/04/2008, Ziko van Dijk <zvandijk at googlemail.com> wrote:
> About Wikipedias of weak languages: There is a West Flemish and a Volapük
> way. The West Flemish have a small, but decent Wikipedia, mostly with
> (though often short) articles about the region and regional culture. The
> Volapük Wikipedia is a phantom, consisting for 99% of geographical bot
> genereated stubs.
> I would like to see a rule that allows West Flemish Wikipedias, but not
> Volapük Wikipedias...
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> Ziko
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> 2008/4/2, Pharos <pharosofalexandria at gmail.com>:
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> > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Andrew Whitworth <wknight8111 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Pharos <pharosofalexandria at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > I've proposed the "Can
> > > > someone write an FA on the language's modern literature?" criterion
> > as
> > > > a useful surrogate for the types of criteria you suggest.
> > >
> > > But just saying that a person "can" do something doesn't mean that the
> > > person "will" do it. Volunteers work on what they want to work on, and
> > > if nobody wants to write a particular article or class of article, it
> > > will never get written.
> > >
> > > Through Wikipedia policy, if the article exists then the topic must be
> > > notable. However if the article doesn't exist, that doesnt mean that
> > > the topic is non-notable. What this is, is a test with potential false
> > > negatives.
> >
> > What I'm saying is, we have to allow an outlet for people proposing a
> > new language Wikipedia in a "historical" language to prove their case.
> > Right now, the subcommittee tells them, "Don't bother me kid, go to
> > the International Organization for Standardization", which is an
> > impossible task, because the ISO is a big bureaucracy that just
> > doesn't deal with categorizing "historical" languages that are still
> > alive in a written form.
> >
> > Writing an FA would not be easy, but it is a task that the proposers
> > of a new language Wikipedia in a "historical" language could be
> > reasonably expected to be able to accomplish to prove their case (or
> > not). The time-scale for writing an FA would typically be a few
> > months, which is quite comparable to the time-scale of the -vastly
> > unproductive- back-and-forth arguments that characterize a typical
> > request to the subcommittee of this type.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Pharos
> >
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