[Foundation-l] Allow new wikis in extinct languages?

Ziko van Dijk zvandijk at googlemail.com
Wed Apr 2 13:55:11 UTC 2008


Maybe we should drop the "computer-world-based" criteria like the ISO-code
and introduce more "real-life" criteria when accepting a new language ("new"
even if ancient):
*The language is taught at a university
*There is a journal or newspaper in or about that language
*20 or more speakers or scholars (with a certificate or some prove that they
can at least write in that language) endorse the project

Ziko van Dijk



2008/4/2, Pharos <pharosofalexandria at gmail.com>:
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Aphaia <aphaia at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Pharos <pharosofalexandria at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >  > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Jesse Martin (Pathoschild)
> >  >  <pathoschild at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  >  > Pharos <pharosofalexandria at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  >  >
> >  >  > >  As long as there is
> >  >  >  >  a notable -contemporary- literature, vocabulary problems will
> be
> >  >  >  >  minimal.
> >  >  >  >
> >  >  >
> >  >  >  What is "notable"?
> >  >
> >  >  Notable enough to have a Featured Article about [[Modern Latin
> >  >  literature]] or [[Modern Coptic literature]] on English Wikipedia or
> >  >  another major-language Wikipedia.
> >
> >  I think this proposed criteria is too subjective and naive. Specially
> >  regarding to the fact English Wikipedia is not always good at
> >  humanities, in particular non European literatures.  Having a FA may
> >  too be occasionally I'm afraid.
> >
> >  But I like the idea of  "notable authors". They are notable since they
> >  have a decent size of readership. It means their writings are read and
> >  surrounded by the reader community which the language in question is
> >  actively, at least, read and have a possibility to be written again.
> >  And even if we still use Wikipedia again, "having an article of that
> >  author" is a less opportunity driven criteria, I think.
>
>
> Of course it would be a powerful incentive to develop some of those
> non-European literature articles.  And one that could probably be met
> by a dedicated person or small group with a medium effort.
>
> But actually having an FA wouldn't be so important as demonstrating
> that such an FA is possible.  Really, it's an idea of making an outlet
> where the notableness of the subject would be absolutely demonstrable.
>
> "Notable authors" is another idea that could certainly work, though
> this might be complicated a bit by some authors being notable for work
> in more than one language, and that some borderline languages might
> have notable contemporary literatures, without many notable individual
> authors.  Still, it's a concept that could help a lot.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pharos
>
>
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