[Foundation-l] Provisional Volunteer Council - proposal sent to the Board

[Chad]

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
>  > just because you're a lvl5 sysop on 3 projects and lvl30 bcrat on 2
>  > others doesn't make you qualified to make legal decisions for a
>  > non-profit.
>  I don't think anyone is presuming that it does.

Then please tell me how Effe's chosen group is qualified to make these
decisions. I'm not seeing any special experience for any of them that
makes them especially useful in deciding the future of the Foundation's
structure...seeing as we apparently need to fix that.

Now, if I'm wrong and some of the PVC members have experience in
non-profit governance and incorporation, please allow them to step
forward and inform us. Up until now, I see _no_ qualifications other
than being a suck up.


-Chad

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
> Chad wrote:
>  > Actually, I think Mike raises a good point right now, not for down
>  > the road. We're giving this group an open-ended slate. We're saying
>  > "here's a vague idea of what you're in responsible for, decide the rest
>  > yourselves." Giving it Board sanction only legitimizes the idea.
>  >
>  The Provisional Council's agenda is certainly an open-ended slate, but
>  beyond its own meetings it can only recommend.  Once it has made its
>  major report the Board will be free to grant the new Council all or some
>  of the powers that it seeks.  Some of the powers could be granted on a
>  conditional basis.
>
> > When you discuss things such as amending the bylaws, you're
>  > beginning to tread into areas that not only require a legal knowledge,
>  > but a legal responsibility. And the question Mike asks is legit:
>  > has this been discussed yet?
>  Discussion itself is not a problem; implementing the product of those
>  discussions is another matter.  Similarly, it would not be productive to
>  ban someone from a mailing list on the sole basis that he does not know
>  what he is talking about.
>
> > Is it appropriate for someone under
>  > 18 to have a say the future (potential) legal status of the Foundation?
>  >
>  I don't see this as much of a problem.  If there is a legal issue around
>  the age of Councilors, it would likely be counterproductive to make a
>  fuss over this when there are so many other  more important problems to
>  face.
>
> > I'm really not trying to be ageist, just trying to remind everyone that
>  > just because you're a lvl5 sysop on 3 projects and lvl30 bcrat on 2
>  > others doesn't make you qualified to make legal decisions for a
>  > non-profit.
>  I don't think anyone is presuming that it does.
>
>  Ec
>
>
>
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