[Foundation-l] Provisional Volunteer Council - proposal sent to the Board
Milos Rancic
millosh at gmail.com
Tue Apr 1 02:23:09 UTC 2008
We were asked "What is your primary project?". I am not representing
sr.wp community, too.
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:58 AM, Dan Rosenthal <swatjester at gmail.com> wrote:
> My objection was not to her being a representative of the commons or
> wikibooks community; however she was put forth as an en.wikipedia
> representative, and for that I absolutely object.
>
> -Dan
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2008, at 9:33 PM, Andrew Whitworth wrote:
>
> > She's also been doing some excellent, drama-free work on Wikibooks. I
> > wouldn't judge a Wikimedian's worth by the way the Wikipedia community
> > feels towards them, since I've always found Wikipedia to be a little
> > bit dramatic and irrational. Of course as an outsider, I'm sure I only
> > ever hear the bad news.
> >
> > --Andrew Whitworth
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Geoffrey Plourde
> > <geo.plrd at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> look at her work on commons. It seems fairly exemplary.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Dan Rosenthal <swatjester at gmail.com>
> >> To: effeietsanders at gmail.com; Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> >> >
> >> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:17:43 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Provisional Volunteer Council -
> >> proposal sent to the Board
> >>
> >> I have serious concerns with Durova being considered as a
> >> representative of the en.wikipedia community. Perhaps you missed the
> >> massive drama over the past months that resulted in her losing her
> >> administrator status. I do not feel that anyone who has so recently
> >> felt one of the most significant backlashes the community has ever
> >> given as a unified body, should be selected to speak for that
> >> community. That's not just a slap in the face; it's a kick in the
> >> balls at the same time.
> >>
> >> -Dan
> >> On Mar 31, 2008, at 7:46 PM, effe iets anders wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>> I am very glad that the proposal for establishing a provisional
> >>> volunteer council received such a lot support both on this list as
> >>> in
> >>> private conversations.
> >>>
> >>> Since the request for candidates for the Provisional Volunteer
> >>> Council, I received quite some nominations. However, unfortunately I
> >>> have to admit that there were no (willing) candidates from some
> >>> important regions amongst these. As I have to work with the
> >>> candidates
> >>> that were nominated, I was therefore unable to candidate someone
> >>> from
> >>> these regions.
> >>>
> >>> I did try however, to get at least a few projects represented, and
> >>> also a more technical person (from the developers side of the
> >>> volunteer spectrum). Please find my final suggestion list below in
> >>> the
> >>> proposal (attached again for reference - only one minor spelling and
> >>> layout changes).
> >>>
> >>> Please note that this is a *proposed* resolution, and not yet
> >>> accepted.
> >>>
> >>> I know this list is not very long. And some area's are still missing
> >>> in representation. However, I trust this group wholehearely, and
> >>> suppose that they will make sure as a first thing to get at least
> >>> one
> >>> or more projects better represented (such as Wikinews or Wikiversity
> >>> which have a very different character).
> >>>
> >>> If you have major concerns with respect to this list of candidates,
> >>> please send them to this list or communicate them to the Board (I am
> >>> not sure which route is the best for that though). I will make no
> >>> changes any more myself, but the Board is of course able to
> >>> determine
> >>> the list as it likes.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> With kind regards,
> >>>
> >>> Lodewijk Gelauff
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Whereas the Board,
> >>>
> >>> * recognizes the value of volunteers in Wikimedia projects and that
> >>> their work is the very reason of their success,
> >>> * values the volunteers' opinions and takes them into serious
> >>> consideration when discussing issues involving the volunteers,
> >>> * is of the opinion that these volunteers should have a strong say
> >>> in
> >>> changes in the articles of incorporation and the bylaws of the
> >>> Wikimedia Foundation,
> >>> * considers a Volunteer Council a valuable intermediary between
> >>> volunteers and the Foundation, and as a good instrument to hear the
> >>> voice of the volunteers:
> >>>
> >>> it is hereby resolved that:
> >>>
> >>> 1. The Board of Trustees hereby creates a Volunteer Council, to
> >>> serve
> >>> as a valuable complement to the Staff, Advisory Board and Board of
> >>> Trustees.
> >>> 2. Without restricting the generality of this provision the purposes
> >>> of the Volunteer Council shall include:
> >>>
> >>> 1) Offering advice and support on issues relevant to the Wikimedia
> >>> Volunteers,
> >>> 2) Recommanding the opening or closure of Wikimedia projects,
> >>> 3) Approving changes to the articles of incorporation or bylaws of
> >>> the Wikimedia Foundation and
> >>> 4) Assist in establishing a clear separation between the legal
> >>> responsibilities of the Wikimedia Foundation as an Internet Service
> >>> Provider and the community decisions for the Wikimedia Projects.
> >>>
> >>> 3. The members from the Volunteer Council must be volunteers within
> >>> Wikimedia.
> >>> 4. The Provisional Volunteer Council shall report to the Board no
> >>> later than September 1, 2008, which report shall include
> >>> recommendations regarding the number and composition of the
> >>> Volunteer
> >>> Council, and how the members of the Council shall be chosen. Said
> >>> report shall also include recommendations regarding the distribution
> >>> of rights and responsibilities between the Board and Council, and
> >>> any
> >>> changes in the by-laws that may be necessary to implement this.
> >>> 5. Except where it pertains to its own procedures, no decision of
> >>> the
> >>> Provisional Volunteer Council shall bind any person.
> >>> 6. On receipt of the said report the Board shall take such steps
> >>> as it
> >>> deems necessary to confirm and empower the Volunteer Council, and
> >>> provide for a transition of operations from the Provisional
> >>> Volunteer
> >>> Council.
> >>> 7. Members of the Volunteer Council will not be financially
> >>> compensated for their activity. On approval by the Board of Trustees
> >>> expenses of the Provisional Volunteer Council and Volunteer
> >>> Council in
> >>> the fulfillment of their duties may be reimbursed.
> >>> 8. The following people are hereby appointed as member of the
> >>> Provisional Volunteer Council:
> >>>
> >>> Michael Bimmler, Mbimmler (Main project: de.wikipedia)
> >>> Yaroslav Blanter, Yaroslav Blanter (Main project: ru.wikipedia)
> >>> Lise Broer, Durova (Main projects: en.wikipedia and
> >>> commons.wikimedia )
> >>> Jesse Plamondon-Willard, Pathoschild (Main projects: en.wikisource
> >>> and meta.wikimedia )
> >>> Sydney Poore, FloNight (Main project: en.wikipedia)
> >>> Milos Rancic, Millosh (Main project: sr.wikipedia)
> >>> Ray Saintonge, Eclecticology (Main project: en.wikisource,
> >>> en.wikipedia)
> >>> Andrew Whitworth, Whiteknight (Main project: en.wikibooks)
> >>> Michal Zlatkovsky, Timichal (Main project: cs.wikipedia)
> >>>
> >>> 9. The members of the Provisional Volunteer Council may on a 2/3
> >>> vote
> >>> of all its members add such additional members as they may deem
> >>> necessary and useful to their deliberations.
> >>>
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