[Foundation-l] FW: A Crime in Missouri

[Dan Rosenthal]

I couldn't answer more than conjecture here, since I haven't taken  
criminal law courses yet, (next semester though!)   If you're really  
interested, I can send a brief email, or put you through to someone  
who could answer better than I.

There was once a federal cyberstalking bill something like 10 years  
ago, but I don't think it ever made it out of committee.

Quickly via google, I see in Florida:  http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/index.cfm?Mode=Bills&Submenu=1&BI_Mode=ViewBillInfo&Billnum=0479&Year=2003

"H479 passed; approved by Governor Jeb Bush on 5/21/03; effective  
10/01/2003
Relating to the offense of stalking

Offense of Stalking; defines term "cyberstalk" to mean communication  
by means of electronic mail or electronic communication which causes  
substantial emotional distress & does not serve legitimate purpose;  
includes within offenses of stalking & aggravated stalking willful,  
malicious, & repeated cyberstalking of another person; provides  
penalties, etc. Amends 784.048; reenacts 775.084(1)(d), 790.065(2)(c),  
921.0022(3)(f),(g), 960.001(1)(b). "

Oh, and I remember a couple years ago New York was trying to pass a  
cyberstalking and harassment law that was REALLY draconian, but once  
again I don't know whatever happened to it.

Also, wasn't there a more recent (i.e. second term bush) attempt to  
get a federal cyberstalking bill pushed through? Something about an  
amendment or a rider to an anti-violence against women act?

-Dan

On Nov 22, 2007, at 5:48 PM, Marc Riddell wrote:

> Dan,
>
> In you experience, how do some of the definitions go? Isn't,  
> particularly,
> harassment a subjective thing?
>
> Marc
>
>
> on 11/22/07 5:35 PM, Dan Rosenthal at swatjester at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Depends on the jurisdiction.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> On Nov 22, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Marc Riddell wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Brigitte, I didn't know. I'd also be curious as to how the  
>>> law
>>> defines stalking and harassment.
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>> on 11/22/07 2:57 PM, Birgitte SB at birgitte_sb at yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I happen to live near this town and do know the
>>>> details  [1].
>>>>
>>>> I can't see how this could involve WMF.  The idea is
>>>> to make it possible to prosecute individuals who
>>>> intentionally harass others online.  It has nothing to
>>>> do with the means of harassment.  The only way I see
>>>> WMF being affected is if the person charged with
>>>> harassment is a checkuser or employee or something.
>>>>
>>>> BirgitteSB
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> http://us.f303.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?box=Foundation%2dl&Mid=2863_1062078
>>>> _3
>>>> 2964_3161_498_0_31904_1095_70994589
>>>> &inc=&Search=&YY=11233&y5beta=yes&y5beta=ye
>>>> s&order=down&sort=date&pos=0
>>>>
>>>> --- Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This copy was meant for this List.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marc
>>>>> ----------
>>>>> From: Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86 at comcast.net>
>>>>> Reply-To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
>>>>> <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>>>>> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:20:08 -0500
>>>>> To: WikiEN List <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>>>>> Cc: Foundation List
>>>>> <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>>>>> Subject: [Foundation-l] A Crime in Missouri
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a question for you legal eagles out there:
>>>>>
>>>>> A town in Missouri (USA) has made on-line stalking
>>>>> and harassment a crime. I
>>>>> don't know much of the details, I just got it from
>>>>> CNN. But my question is,
>>>>> if the person charged an/or convicted of this crime
>>>>> were doing this in
>>>>> Wikipedia, or one of the other Projects, would the
>>>>> case involve us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just curious.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marc Riddell
>>>>>
>>>>>
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