[Foundation-l] Putting the Foundation back in WMF

GerardM gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Sat Nov 17 22:04:10 UTC 2007

As I am of the opinion that there is a causal relation, and as I am equally
allowed to express my opinion, I can and do blame. When you are of the
opinion that this is not nice. Well, it only proves that it is not a zero
sum game. I hope we will get enough money to cover the budget if not their
will necessarily be cuts.

Where you say "these dissenting opinions were considered and acted upon" I
will say "these opinions have cost us both a lot of money and a lot of
goodwill". Because do you really believe that Virgin would be willing to
match donations ?


On Nov 17, 2007 9:40 PM, Oldak Quill <oldakquill at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 16/11/2007, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Last year some people made a lot of ugly noises during the fund drive.
> It
> > may be the reason why we do not have matching donations. I think it
> shows
> > how irresponsible this has been.
> People did raise objections to the fund drive last year, but you can't
> describe those who objected as "irresponsible" or blame them for a
> lack of matching donations. A discussion, or dissent, didn't cause
> these problems directly - these "ugly noises" could have been ignored
> if they had no validity. Obviously, people listened to, and acted
> upon, these objecting opinions for various reasons. If you are right,
> people dissented and objected, these dissenting opinions were
> considered and acted upon (resulting in no matching donations), and we
> are where we are now.
> Blaming people - and especially blaming people for voicing opinions  -
> isn't going to help us or fix anything, and it certainly isn't going
> to foster the kind of open, considered debate we should be working
> towards.
> --
> Oldak Quill (oldakquill at gmail.com)
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