[Foundation-l] Fundraising totals as of Nov. 15, 2007 @ 12:20 PM (EST)

[Robert Rohde]

Most of the pennies come in sprees (a donation a minute, or close to it).
Within a spree, if you get 100 pennies from repeated use of the same card,
that is a practical joker.  On the other hand, if you get 100 pennies from
100 different cards, that is almost certainly a sign that those cards are
stolen.

My understanding is that Paypal does not directly reveal credit card
numbers, but they do reveal the card holder's name.  With that, the donation
size, and timestamp, one could figure out which donations (if any) are most
likely part of sprees for the purpose of testing large numbers of stolen
cards.  It would still require that Paypal is interested in following up
though, since they are the only ones (if I understand correctly) to have the
actual card numbers.

-Robert Rohde

On Nov 16, 2007 6:32 AM, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org> wrote:

> Is there some way we can work with Paypal and the Credit Card companies to
> use this data to identify fraud and stolen numbers? If so, this would be
> good press.
>
>
> Brian McNeil.
>
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> Dalton
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>  On 16/11/2007, geni <geniice at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 16/11/2007, Andrew Gray <shimgray at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Interesting. Would it be possible to generate one with the vertical
> > > axis being %age of all donations, not an absolute number?
> > >
> > > In PR terms: it's important to distinguish between us getting money
> > > given with stolen credit cards (really bad) and us being used to test
> > > stolen credit cards and at best getting a few cents (annoying, but not
> > > Massively Morally Wrong)
> > >
> >
> > The amount isn't significant (a little over $20 at most).
>
> The amount is zero - it all goes to paypal.
>
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