[Foundation-l] Wikimedia contacts

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OK, lesson of today: don't ask homework on irc, but make it yourself!

2007/11/12, Dan Collins <en.wp.st47 op gmail.com>:
> On Nov 12, 2007 5:54 AM, White Cat <wikipedia.kawaii.neko op gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > NotACow/kayrnn/Kelly is the person issuing the ban on #wikipedia and
> > #wikimedia-ops. All of those layers are hence useless as she so far
> > refused to communicate using a non-irc method such as my wikipedia
> > talk page or email. I do not want to talk to NotACow/kayrnn/Kelly
> > directly on IRC as I ignored her permanently so as not to rise the
> > temperature unnecessarily as we end up annoying each other
> > unintentionally.
> >
> >  I can't publicly post the log here but can email it to you (in fact
> > I'll forwarded it after sending this).
> >
> >     - White Cat
> >
> > On Nov 12, 2007 12:37 PM, Sean Whitton <sean op silentflame.com> wrote:
> > > On 11/12/07, Angela <beesley op gmail.com> wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > > > The contacts are listed on meta, but they're not there to resolve
> > > > personal disputes you have with people on IRC. As the page says "the
> > > > contacts have a policy of staying out of channel affairs..."
> > > >
> > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_Group_Contacts
> > >
> > > For the record, I am the person to go to at the moment rather than
> > > James as he has delegated 99% of the work to me due to other
> > > commitments. You are right though that we try to stay out of this at
> > > all costs. The correct order for escalation of issues is the
> > > following, but really anything past the first few layers is a last
> > > resort:
> > >
> > > For #wikipedia:
> > > Op who banned
> > > #wikimedia-ops (where I hope bans are used extremely sparingly)
> > > Deputy Channel Contact, NotACow/kayrnn/Kelly
> > > Channel Contact: Mark_Ryan
> > > IRC Group Contacts
> > >
> > > Sean
> > >
> > >
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> Let me just chime in with last night - White_Cat: appearantly Drini, an op,
> asked you why you were in #wikipedia-es - Drini wanted to be sure you
> weren't leaking logs, and you ignored him. When he banned you, you came to
> -ops and asked for help. JohnReaves and myself were on at the time, and we
> didn't ignore you, we simply didn't have any power in -es. When Drini
> arrived, you refused to unignore him, and there wasn't anything we could do
> to help you.
>
> As for the #wikipedia incident, White_Cat was asking for homework
> assistance, NotACow posted the solution, but White_Cat was ignoring NotACow.
> White_Cat was asking for someone with logs, and didn't see NotACow's
> warnings. (NotACow is the deputy channel contact, by the way.)
>
> White_Cat: You want to be unbanned, of course. To do that, you went to -ops
> last night - no problem with that. But you can not ignore the only people
> who can help you. Your escalation from -ops to email was not necessary, as
> there was a user there fully able to help you, had you unignored him and
> answered his questions.
>
> And finally, why are we discussing this on foundation-l?
>
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> ST47
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