[Foundation-l] Native American Tribes Policy

Ilario Valdelli valdelli at gmail.com
Tue May 15 21:27:11 UTC 2007


Sorry... I don't understand this thread.

I live in Europe. This thread is concerning the foundation... I don't 
understand Indians... tribes... I don't understand.

Is this the correct ML?

Ilario

Jeffrey V. Merkey wrote:
> Here's a great article on the topic with an explanation of the legal 
> issues surrounding this debate.
>
> http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1055857097
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> Jeff
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> Philippe Beaudette wrote:
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>> I have to tell you, as a former employee of an organization that dealt with Indian Sovereignty on a daily basis, I'm loathe to recommend that Wikipedia get involved in the recognized/non-recognized battle.  Particularly given that tripes are having recognition stripped and given even today - just google "Tribe Sovereignty stripped" for some interesting reading.
>>
>> There are too many uncertainties in this area, and frankly, I don't want to be the one (or suggest that anyone else is) to involve us in tribal policies.  I don't want to call the Chief/Chairman/Chief Executive of any of these tribes and say we're going to alter their article and this is why, and I think it's not good policy for us to get in the middle of this one.
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>> Federal recognition does not equal validity.  Until the BIA is straightened out, and the Department of the Interior, and ancient treaties, this is a field full of landmines, and I think we're best to stay the heck off of it.
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>> Philippe
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> Well, I can see I am wasting time with this debate. Federal recognition 
> = verifiability (not validity). I think perhaps the policies may already 
> be in place to deal with these issues under WP:V. One such fake tribe 
> already has had an article purged out and deleted without the policy, so 
> it appears folks have gotten the point. It does not matter if Wikipedia 
> is involved in the debate or not. If a fake tribe gets listed, they use 
> WP for misinformation and something happens, Wikipedia can retroactively 
> deal with it the same way it handled the "fake professor" fiasco -- lots 
> of bad publicity and public scrutiny. I guess it will get dealt with if 
> and when it happens.
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> Jeff
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