[Foundation-l] Native American Tribes Policy

Jeffrey V. Merkey jmerkey at wolfmountaingroup.com
Tue May 15 19:17:22 UTC 2007


Joe Szilagyi wrote:

>On 5/15/07, geni <geniice at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>On 5/15/07, Jeffrey V. Merkey <jmerkey at wolfmountaingroup.com> wrote:
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>>>Criminal liaibility is not exempted under this section. Better go read
>>>it again.
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>>Ok what is the exact federal statute you think the foundation would be
>>in violation of?
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>Based on the wording of the proposal, and Jeffrey's wording here, the sense
>seems to be that the policy is meant to appeal both to the sensibilities of
>the tribal nations, as well as supporting the ideal that only the United
>States Federal government can decide who's a legitimate "Indian tribe".
>Several issues, unless I'm being dense or ignorant, with all that.
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>1. "en.wikipedia.org" isn't "unitedstates.wikipedia.org". Wikipedia's only
>obligation to the US is to not break laws where they're hosted. Anything
>else is irrelevant, since it's explicitely not supposed to be an American
>encyclopedia.
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>2. The United States has zero jurisdiction on "who is Indian" outside of the
>United States. Are tribes in Canada reliant on US law?
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>3. Why are we worrying about appealing to the support and/or sensibilities
>of the tribes with their own policy? Do we have WP:Muslim, WP:Jews,
>WP:Hungarian, WP:Tamil, and WP:Somalians?
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Good point on number 3. Who cares about the sensibilities here anyway. 
It's simply an issue of WP:V.

If they are not recognized, then how can they be verified as Indian 
Tribes? What if I setup a website claiming to be the
president of Germany? Can someone cite it in a wikipedia article since 
there is a we page to claim it?

Jeff



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