[Foundation-l] Belarusan Wikipedia

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Sat Mar 31 10:58:21 UTC 2007


Tomasz Ganicz schreef:
> 2007/3/31, Oldak Quill <oldakquill at gmail.com>:
>   
>> On 31/03/07, Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>     
>>> On 3/31/07, Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> On 3/31/07, Oldak Quill <oldakquill at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>>> Nor is it closed; it lives at
>>>>>> http://be-x-old.wikipedia.org/
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Living in a vegetative, comatose fashio, though. The database is locked.
>>>>>           
>>>> It shouldn't be. I'll try to figure out what's going on there.
>>>>         
>>> Ah, apparently a misunderstanding; Brion thought a move to "be-x-old"
>>> was meant to imply that it is an archive of the existing Wikipedia.
>>> The "old" refers to the orthography, not the wiki.
>>>
>>> I have asked him to remove the lockfile; both wikis should be editable
>>> now. Mind you, it might be a good idea to merge them, to kill one of
>>> them, or whatever. This is for the community to work out, and I'm not
>>> going to have us impose a preference for any solution.
>>>
>>> For now, the only thing we have authorized the LangCom to decide is
>>> what the language codes for the respective versions should be if they
>>> are to be separate. *Not* to close or lock wikis. That is not within
>>> the authority of the LangCom.
>>>       
>> Thanks for clearing this up. I think the unannounced lock was one of
>> the main points of confusion and contention among the community.
>>
>>     
>
> I am wondereing what has happened with all interwiki links which were
> pointing to the old version. As the old version was two times larger
> than the new one many interwiki points to the non-existing pages. Even
> the still existing ones sometimes point to nowhere as the old spelling
> of them is slightly different the new one. What is the interwiki code
> for old version?
> This especially affected Polish Wikipedia, as we have a lot of
> articles about cities and villages in Biellaruss, as well as the
> Biellarusian VIPs, but I expect many other Wikipedias are affected as
> well.
>
> And again I am repeating my old questions. Did the LangComm contacted
> any experts from outisde before this decission was made, or just
> decided on the basis of short and probably biased discussion on meta?
Hoi,
The pywikipedia bot has a program that allows you to change strings .. 
so you can replace "[[be:" with "[[be-x-old".

As to your question, the situation was stark and obvious. The official 
orthography was not accepted. Now the be code does stand for Belarus. 
The current situation is however not really acceptable. Both wikipedias 
should integrate. The current situation with two projects is horrid it 
will result in two biased projects.

Thanks,
    GerardM



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