[Foundation-l] Banning Fair Use
wknight8111 at hotmail.com
Wed Mar 28 16:12:20 UTC 2007
From: Robert Horning <robert_horning at netzero.net>
>As I feared would be the case, this new foundation policy has become a call
>to arms by deletionists to institute a massive removal of all fair use
>content on all Wikimedia projects. I don't know if this was the intent,
>but on at least en.wikibooks, the most active bureaucrat there has demanded
>that all fair use content be eliminated from Wikibooks. And has used this
>policy to strength his own counter claim that we should never have allowed
>fair use onto that project in the first place.
As the most active of the three bureaucrats on that project, I can only
assume Robert is talking about me. This is a gross miscategorization of my
words and actions, and should not be used to cause alarm among foundation
After reading the resolution, I suggested in a local forum that we needed to
finalize our EDP policy proposal (which is an "unofficial" de facto standard
at the moment), we needed to increase our monitoring and tagging of fair use
images, and we needed to educate administrators about the use and misuse of
fair use media. I specifically called for people not to delete any fair use
media until our EDP policy was finalized, and so far no images have been
deleted because of this.
>... unless you have already "approved" an EDP (whatever that means.... and
>the process of approval is certainly vague here)
It's not vague at all, en.wikibooks has a method for approving new policy,
and we are employing that method now to our own EDP. Again, no cause for
>Because of the earlier discussion about fair use that was started by Kat
>(before this policy was written), this same bureaucrat on Wikibooks also
>deleted and rewrote the fair use policy to simply say that fair use was
>banned, presuming authority on the part of the WMF.
A mistake on my part, which I personally reverted when I learned of my
errors. I had been under the impression that Kat's essay carried more weight
then it actually did, and that the forthcoming WMF resolution would be
significantly more restrictive about fair use then our previous policy on
the matter was. I was right, and there are significant restrictions on it.
>But because this is a smallish project with only a handful of users who set
>policy, it makes it easier for some users to wildly mis-interpret what has
And it is also easy for people like this to wildly misinterpret the actions
of their fellow wikimedians. It's easier to raise alarm if you lie and say
that our project is going to hell in a hand basket. It's harder to raise
that alarm when you admit that our project is functioning normally, and is
making a community effort to meet the expectations of the WMF resolution.
In the future, if you are going to lie about me, do it in private so I dont
need to call you out about it in public. It's just rude.
--Andrew Whitworth (b:User:Whiteknight)
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