[Foundation-l] Censorship: Speedy deletion of porn articles

Mark Williamson node.ue at gmail.com
Fri Mar 9 22:50:44 UTC 2007

On 08/03/07, Jeff V. Merkey <jmerkey at wolfmountaingroup.com> wrote:
> Since the English Wikipedia folks do JUST THAT, as an example. Why
> should there be categories such as
> LGBT entertainers, authors, etc. There are no categories for HETERO
> authors, actors, etc. Oh, I forgot,
> that's a CUTTURAL NORM on the english Wikipedia that we OPENLY DISCUSS
> sexual behavior and put
> labels on people, whether they like it or not, or whatever or not is
> offends others, and then RAM IT DOWN

No - if someone does not label themselves, we do not label them. If we
do, that is against policy and should be righted.

Your usage of capital letters and inflammatory language is one of the
lesser reasons why you (and all of your sockpuppets) are permanently
banned from the English Wikipedia, the greaters reasons are your
unwillingness to cooperate with the Wiki process and your extensive
use of sockpuppets for malicious purposes. I am still not sure why you
are listened to at all here or why you were trusted with admin privs
at any foundation-run Wiki. And don't claim I am telling a non-truth
here, the first person who claimed such things about you on
mailinglists was Angela Beesley (on wikipedia-l), not me. I think most
people afford her more credibility than they do you.

> In essence, what I am saying here is that the OPENNESS and NPOV
> they are erstwhile concepts and important, but they are very much
> European attitudes, and not all cultures embrace them the same way.

No, NPOV is mandatory on all Wikipedias. You may not create a policy
counter to that at a a local Wiki. Whether or not it is ethnocentric
is up for discussion, but it is currently required for everyone. If
you don't like that, you are welcome to start a discussion about the
ethnocentricity and unfairness of the policy, but it is currently a
foundation-wide policy so you may not turn chr.wp or any other Wiki
into your own POV fork.

> And here is a good example on the Cherokee Wikipedia as to why this
> statement has a great deal of merit.
> http://chr.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CULTURE

What you forgot to mention is that you are the only active eitopr on
that Wiki, and that you singlehandedly wrote that policy. We have yet
to hear whether or not any other Cherokee speakers support it (I am
not sure I even believe you are one yourself, considering you use a
machine translation engine to write articles and your history of
dishonesty at other projects).


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