[Foundation-l] Censorship: Speedy deletion of porn articles

GerardM gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Thu Mar 8 20:53:40 UTC 2007

When you think that people are interested in what can be perceived as a
provocation, you are wrong. What makes you think that details about porn is
of sufficient relevance to warrant an article? You have to appreciate that
some Wikipedias are quite happy to even disallow articles about Pokomon
characters. Now Pokomon creatures are much more educational. They are the
staple diet of our youth.

Danny is a WMF employee, I believe he has more important things to do than
to indulge your misplaced sense of outrage.


On 3/8/07, Yonatan Horan <yonatanh at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> It has recently (about two months ago) come to my attention that articles
> on
> the Hebrew Wikipedia are speedy deleted. I translated the Jenna Jameson
> article from the English Wikipedia and it was very quickly speedy deleted
> and I was indefinitely blocked due to being a sockpuppet of some guy (of
> course no checkuser request was done). By the way, I don't particularly
> like
> porn articles or anything of the sort; in fact, I don't believe I've ever
> edited a porn article on the enwp which I'm very active on. After a few
> days
> (during which I complained on Danny's enwp talk page and thus got the
> attention of a Hebrew Wikipedia admin and later spoke on the phone with
> another admin from hewp) I was unblocked. I'm guessing there have probably
> been other people who just gave up after they were banned and didn't
> return.
> The situation is basically that if a user who isn't well-known on the hewp
> (someone outside of a group of about 100 users) creates such an article he
> will probably be perm-banned and if anyone else does so, the article will
> probably just be speedy deleted. No rule has been passed on the Hebrew
> Wikipedia regarding this and even if it had been passed, it would be in
> violation of WMF (?) guidelines as Wikipedia is not censored. Some claim
> that a rule has been passed but many admins disagree with this. The "vote"
> was passed about two years ago and had 10-20 participants. In addition to
> this, the vote came at a time when the Hebrew Wikipedia was repeatedly
> vandalized by a certain user and many of the voters supposedly for the
> banning of porn articles referred only to this specific case (this is
> supported by their comments on the page).
> By the way, just so nobody corrects me, on the Hebrew Wikipedia *there are
> votes* since consensus is hardly ever reached and the total needed to pass
> a
> vote is a ridiculous 55%. Anyway, despite all the above, a few admins have
> said that they will speedy delete any porn articles created on the Hebrew
> Wikipedia. Currently there are a few porn articles which are about the
> movie
> Deep Throat and two other articles that I don't recall at the moment. This
> is a foundation issue because the situation right now is effectively
> censorship of articles that some people feel do not have a place on the
> wikipedia. I know I will probably have those who disagree with me be
> notified of this discussion at some point at which point the slandering
> will
> begin and I will be called a "snitch" and possibly other more colorful
> terms
> so I ask ahead of time for this discussion to remain civil. Although I
> hate
> to burden Danny, who probably has a lot of more important things to do, he
> is the only one who speaks both Hebrew and English and could take care of
> this issue since he is obviously a person trusted by most. Anyway I think
> I've written more than enough on an issue that should be pretty
> straightforward, that is, that wikipedia is not censored.
> Thanks,
> Yonatan
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