[Foundation-l] #wikipedia

JodyB jodybwiki at bellsouth.net
Wed Jun 20 20:40:32 UTC 2007

Can you not monitor two channels at the same time? I think seanw has 
indicated some flexibility in the rules and it seems to have settled a 
bit today. I know you are frustrated but aside from that is it really 
that big of a deal to you?


Dejan Čabrilo wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 11:40 -0500, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
>> My goodness, this email is the very definition of "spin", isn't it?
>> Philippe
> I just want to know if there is anything we can do about the situation
> or not. Many of us don't like the new rules. It seems seanw is in
> charge. I'm not exactly sure how nor am I sure what gave him the
> authority to create the guideline, deop everybody and give ops only to
> people who agree with him. 
> The reason I'm so upset about the channel is that it was rather useful
> for me. I got help there, gave help, but we also instituted regional
> meetings of wikipedians of former Yugoslavia (which would be impossible
> if we didn't go off topic and realize that we share much more in common
> than Wikipedia. So now there is 5-6 of us who travel lengthy distances,
> for our travelling posibilities, to socialize), it kept our spirits up,
> gave us opportunity to vent off, etc. 
> Then, somebody comes, institutes new rules, and there seems nothing that
> we can do about. 
> All I want is that we keep #wikipedia and #wikipedia-social together.
> I'm not against new rules. I'm not against change. But if I am to
> embrace the change, I would just like to know whom to turn to give my
> input to.
> Mailing list obviously doesn't work. Talking about this on #wikipedia
> doesn't work either. Our nearly unanimous decision to change the
> guideline on the wiki talk page was ignored. 
> So, once again: tell me how to contribute, and I will. Tell me, from
> some position of authority, that what I say makes no difference, and
> I'll shut up. Tell me to whom to turn for help. 
> Thank you,
> Dejan Čabrilo
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