[Foundation-l] Diversity and NC images - Board meet

geni geniice at gmail.com
Sun Jan 14 17:40:01 UTC 2007

On 1/14/07, luke brandt <shojokid at gmail.com> wrote:
> geni wrote:
> > On 1/14/07, luke brandt <shojokid at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> My reply is that I asked (on 8 November 2006) whether the Wikimedia
> >> Foundation has a preferred license for its projects. The answer then
> >> appeared to be 'no.'
> >
> > Not exactly:
> >
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-May/023760.html
> Yes, that posting by Jimmy Wales is relevant to NC images and By
> Permission images, but I'm sure that people like Eric and Angela and
> Gerard were familiar with it when they replied, even though it was
> posted 18 months previously.

Which was when for the most part the issue was settled.

> It is still true that the answer to my
> question appeared to be 'no;' that is: there is no preferred license by
> the Wikimedia Foundation. There are a plethora of licenses to choose
> from, or we could formulate a custom one.

Wikinews suggested that one. I think the response was please no. At
least partly because of the shear number of existing free lisences.

> Now the current meeting could
> maybe choose a preferred license if it wanted.....

That would be politicaly unwise since we would either upset the FSF or
CC. The case of lisences we can use is already defined.

> I said we should think things through for ourselves - surely that's
> right to do. We are in a unique situation.

Not really. Lots of people have delt with free lisence issues and we
can't afford many lawyers

> Right - I would prefer people with deep knowledge on those topics as
> well, but there you go...However I wasn't only referring to copyright in
> that comment. I was referring to a whole gamut of issues, thinking
> particularly about China and how things are developing there.

I think we largely ignore china.

> Be more specific, please.

The actions rather than the theory of WP:OFFICE. Certian actions by
people acting for the foundation. I'm not going to dig up the details
of my past clashes with the foundation.

> Could you perhaps be more specific please...why does NC fail in such an
> objective.

Companies have quite a good record of spreading knowlage when they can
make money off it. The record of doing so when they cannot is rather
less good.

>.this link may be of use:
> http://cites.boisestate.edu/v6i3e.htm

Red hat makes a fair amount of money. Acording to that article that is
imposible. With errors of that scale I don't think further examination
is likely to reveal useful results.


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