[Foundation-l] Wikipedia and Wikinews

[Nathan Awrich]

The way it was phrased, it seemed like everything was automatically
archived after 10 days. A bot could do it, without taking up a
significant portion of anyone's resources. It'd need to be a +sysop
bot, however, I know on en.wiki that isn't terribly popular. If there
is an element of judgement involved in each protection (I wasn't and
still am not familiar with the criteria) then you are right, it can't
be automated.

On Dec 19, 2007 12:22 PM, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org> wrote:
> I drafted what is the main part of Wikinews' archiving process, and I've yet
> to see a good justification for the removal of the human element in the
> process.
>
> The basics are a final format, dealing with issues like removal of templates
> inviting people to expand an article, sorting sources newest to oldest,
> correcting minor typos and grammatical errors - basically a final polish on
> the article. Depending on who performs the article archiving and how
> thoroughly it is done there is almost always a decision that I doubt we
> could develop software to carry out.
>
> Trying to totally automate the process would lead to rules where you had a
> link to [[United States]] meaning that the corresponding category was always
> added. That may not be appropriate, and when we can develop software that
> can demonstrate what we consider good judgement I'd be delighted to see the
> process delegated to it.
>
>
> Brian McNeil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of GerardM
> Sent: 19 December 2007 18:07
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia and Wikinews
>
> Hoi,
> Who is going to do this automation ? Is this the functionality that has the
> highest priority or have other wanted features more gravity?
> Thanks,
>     GerardM
>
> On Dec 19, 2007 5:58 PM, Nathan Awrich <nawrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If there is a policy to lockdown article contents after 10 days, why
> > isn't it automated?
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2007 6:54 PM, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org> wrote:
> > > Thomas Dalton wrote:
> > >
> > > >Is Wikinews an acceptable source for Wikipedia? The same reasoning
> > > >that stops it appearing on Google News would seem to make it
> > > >inappropriate for Wikipedia too.
> > >
> > > It should be - if the article is about a week old. I've probably
> > protected
> > > more pages than anyone else as part of Wikinews' archiving policy. When
> > our
> > > stuff is 7-10 days old it should be fully locked down and no content
> > edits
> > > allowed. With that policy and an open edit history I believe that when
> > an
> > > article gets to the archived state it should be a credible source for
> > > Wikipedia - if not before.
> > >
> > > There are a handful of templates on Wikipedia for linking to Wikinews
> > > articles, they serve in a limited way to advertise the existence of the
> > > project, but there is no {{breaking-help-Wikinews}} template to add to
> > > articles that are in the news.
> > >
> > >
> > > Brian McNeil
> > >
> > >
> > >
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