[Foundation-l] Wikipedia and Wikinews

Brian McNeil brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org
Wed Dec 19 17:22:09 UTC 2007


I drafted what is the main part of Wikinews' archiving process, and I've yet
to see a good justification for the removal of the human element in the
process.

The basics are a final format, dealing with issues like removal of templates
inviting people to expand an article, sorting sources newest to oldest,
correcting minor typos and grammatical errors - basically a final polish on
the article. Depending on who performs the article archiving and how
thoroughly it is done there is almost always a decision that I doubt we
could develop software to carry out.

Trying to totally automate the process would lead to rules where you had a
link to [[United States]] meaning that the corresponding category was always
added. That may not be appropriate, and when we can develop software that
can demonstrate what we consider good judgement I'd be delighted to see the
process delegated to it.


Brian McNeil

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Hoi,
Who is going to do this automation ? Is this the functionality that has the
highest priority or have other wanted features more gravity?
Thanks,
    GerardM

On Dec 19, 2007 5:58 PM, Nathan Awrich <nawrich at gmail.com> wrote:

> If there is a policy to lockdown article contents after 10 days, why
> isn't it automated?
>
> On Dec 17, 2007 6:54 PM, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org> wrote:
> > Thomas Dalton wrote:
> >
> > >Is Wikinews an acceptable source for Wikipedia? The same reasoning
> > >that stops it appearing on Google News would seem to make it
> > >inappropriate for Wikipedia too.
> >
> > It should be - if the article is about a week old. I've probably
> protected
> > more pages than anyone else as part of Wikinews' archiving policy. When
> our
> > stuff is 7-10 days old it should be fully locked down and no content
> edits
> > allowed. With that policy and an open edit history I believe that when
> an
> > article gets to the archived state it should be a credible source for
> > Wikipedia - if not before.
> >
> > There are a handful of templates on Wikipedia for linking to Wikinews
> > articles, they serve in a limited way to advertise the existence of the
> > project, but there is no {{breaking-help-Wikinews}} template to add to
> > articles that are in the news.
> >
> >
> > Brian McNeil
> >
> >
> >
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