[Foundation-l] Fwd: Jimbo's response re:Rampant Checkuser Privacy Abuse

GerardM gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Wed Dec 12 20:36:37 UTC 2007


Hoi,
There is a stigma on being check-usered. When the trusted check user people
have a clue that something is wrong and silently investigate an issue they
only need to say something when there IS an issue. Nobody needs to know who
was investigated why. Only when it is found that a specific person is sock
puppeting, it needs to be told that a person was found to be found with
his/her hand in the cookie jar.

When the community is informed about real issues then there is no need to
discuss if certain people need to be checkusered. People can ASK if
something is investigated but when there is no reply unless someone DID
investigate and DID find an issue, you will not give the "satisfaction" to
the paranoia of some.
Thanks,
     GerardM

On Dec 12, 2007 8:34 PM, Anthony <wikimail at inbox.org> wrote:

> On Dec 12, 2007 2:16 PM, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > --- Tomasz Ganicz <polimerek at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 2007/12/12, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>:
> > > > Hoi,
> > > > Why is this exclusively en.wikipedia issue
> > > discussed on Foundation-l ???
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >      GerardM
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think the examples are just from en-wikipedia -
> > > but the problem is
> > > about all Wikimedia projects.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > What other projects are having such problems?
> > Considering only a small number of projects have local
> > checkusers and some of those have strong requirements
> > for transparency, I would be very surprised to find
> > this to be a WMF-wide issue.  IIRC fr.WP doesn't even
> > allow local checkusers to join checkuser-l because of
> > the lack of transparency of that mailing list.
> >
> > I doubt this is inherently a checkuser problem
> > anyways.  It is just another symptom of the larger
> > dysfunction of the en.WP community.
> >
> > Birgitte SB
> >
> So are other communities immune from this problem, or has it just not
> hit them yet?  Either way, I think input from those outside en.wp
> would be valuable.  If you're immune from the problem, tell us how you
> got there.  If it just hasn't hit you yet, let's work together to
> solve it before it does.
>
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