[Foundation-l] Fwd: Jimbo's response re:Rampant Checkuser Privacy Abuse

[Birgitte SB]

--- Anthony <wikimail at inbox.org> wrote:

> On Dec 12, 2007 2:16 PM, Birgitte SB
> <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > --- Tomasz Ganicz <polimerek at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 2007/12/12, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>:
> > > > Hoi,
> > > > Why is this exclusively en.wikipedia issue
> > > discussed on Foundation-l ???
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >      GerardM
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think the examples are just from en-wikipedia
> -
> > > but the problem is
> > > about all Wikimedia projects.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > What other projects are having such problems?
> > Considering only a small number of projects have
> local
> > checkusers and some of those have strong
> requirements
> > for transparency, I would be very surprised to
> find
> > this to be a WMF-wide issue.  IIRC fr.WP doesn't
> even
> > allow local checkusers to join checkuser-l because
> of
> > the lack of transparency of that mailing list.
> >
> > I doubt this is inherently a checkuser problem
> > anyways.  It is just another symptom of the larger
> > dysfunction of the en.WP community.
> >
> > Birgitte SB
> >
> So are other communities immune from this problem,
> or has it just not
> hit them yet?  Either way, I think input from those
> outside en.wp
> would be valuable.  If you're immune from the
> problem, tell us how you
> got there.  If it just hasn't hit you yet, let's
> work together to
> solve it before it does.
> 
> ______________________________


You propose that all WMF communities are either A)
immune to en.WP's problems and obligated to advise
en.WP about why this is so on foundation-l, or B)
destined to eventually have similar problems as en.WP
in the future and therefore discussing en.WP's issue
is really discussing an issue for all these projects
as well.  If that were valid no en.WP problem would be
considered off-topic here.  However it is not valid;
en.WP has an entire list for discussing en.WP issues
which would be much more appropriate place for this
topic.  A pointer to a thread there asking for outside
opinions would be an appropriate way to solicit advice
from other communities.

Birgitte SB 



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