[Foundation-l] Racism in Commons

Christiano Moreschi moreschiwikiman at hotmail.co.uk
Wed Dec 5 14:56:42 UTC 2007

I guess it's "educational" in the sense that from these you can learn quite a lot about the moronic agitprop tendencies of the bleeding-heart liberal "We're all Hizbollah now" brigade. I personally learned quite a lot about the artist :)

More seriously, however, Commons need to pull their collective socks up. This is not clever stuff, and I note that the user who added and then edit-warred over these has not been banned yet. If this were enwiki I'd have kicked this guy out ASAP. POV-warriors can't be allowed to run around on the loose on any WMF project.


Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.

> To: foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> From: Anthere9 at yahoo.com
> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:32:07 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Racism in Commons
> Erik Moeller wrote:
> > On 12/5/07, Florence Devouard <Anthere9 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Some (many) of the images uploaded by Jaakobou are quite shocking.
> >> I am sorry, but I fail to see how many of these images are in any sense
> >> *educational*
> > 
> > As far as I can tell, the illustrations were not created specifically
> > for Commons. Rather, an illustrator named Carlos Latuff made them
> > available as public domain artwork. As such, they could usefully serve
> > as examples of particular types of political cartoonism, where we
> > normally would resort to fair use. See:
> > 
> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Latuff
> > 
> > for examples of Latuff's work. I've proposed an NPOV disclaimer
> > (before Anthere removed the cartoons).
> Yeah. In the spirit of NPOV, I think that when HALF of the images of a 
> (famous) politician on commons are conveying the idea that he is a nazi, 
> then the page is not okay as is.
> Now, beyond this, I think commons community should possibly reflect on 
> what is *educational* and what is not.
> ant
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