[Foundation-l] Racism in Commons

teun spaans teun.spaans at gmail.com
Wed Dec 5 12:43:59 UTC 2007

The idea that only "educational" info should be stored seems to derive from

However, when on wikibooks I write a schoolbook, i also want some
illustrations that are just funny, and are not educational in themselves.
And when I would write a book on Churchill (something i dont intend to do),
it would be nice to have some cartoons on him. Mind you, I dont object
against this deletion, but some discussion on the deletion criteria on
commons are in order.


2007/12/5, Florence Devouard <Anthere9 at yahoo.com>:
> Erik Moeller wrote:
> > On 12/5/07, Florence Devouard <Anthere9 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Some (many) of the images uploaded by Jaakobou are quite shocking.
> >> I am sorry, but I fail to see how many of these images are in any sense
> >> *educational*
> >
> > As far as I can tell, the illustrations were not created specifically
> > for Commons. Rather, an illustrator named Carlos Latuff made them
> > available as public domain artwork. As such, they could usefully serve
> > as examples of particular types of political cartoonism, where we
> > normally would resort to fair use. See:
> >
> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Latuff
> >
> > for examples of Latuff's work. I've proposed an NPOV disclaimer
> > (before Anthere removed the cartoons).
> Yeah. In the spirit of NPOV, I think that when HALF of the images of a
> (famous) politician on commons are conveying the idea that he is a nazi,
> then the page is not okay as is.
> Now, beyond this, I think commons community should possibly reflect on
> what is *educational* and what is not.
> ant
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