[Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia logos on Commons

[Casey Brown]

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From: Mike Godwin <mgodwin at wikimedia.org>
Date: Aug 25, 2007 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia logos on Commons
To: Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml at gmail.com>



I'd prefer, I think, for Wikimedia Foundation logos and visual trademarks to
be removed from Commons.  The potential for misunderstanding otherwise is
pretty limitless.


None of us wants to be dealing with a case where someone used the Wikipedia
icon on a product, when we challenged it, they said "Hey, it's FREE."


Of course, all trademarks are subject to fair use and other limitations on
exclusive use, so we're not flatly forbidden reproduction of the
iconography.  We're just saying it's not "free" in the sense that content in
Commons is supposed to be free.




--Mike








 On Aug 25, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Casey Brown wrote:

Some guy nommed all the WMF logos on Commons for deletion because they were
"not free" (Commons only accepts freely-licensed images).  You can see the
full convo in the Foundation-l archvies.

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From: Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml at gmail.com>
Date: Aug 25, 2007 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia logos on Commons
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>

Has anyone asked Mike's opinion on the discussion?  Last I checked he was
working on trademarks (and probably logos too).  I'm sure he'd find this
somewhat interesting.

On 8/25/07, Delirium <delirium at hackish.org> wrote:
>
> Brian wrote:
> > I think Erik really got to the heart of the issue. If this _were_ an
> issue,
> > it boils down to the fact that you need to have legal protection of
> certain
> > digital media that is somewhat stricter than your philosophy usually
> > permits, and finding a way to tackle that problem in all open source
> > projects is the place to do this, perhaps with a new type of license.
> >
>
> Well, the way the Debian project solved this is by [gasp!] just freely
> licensing their logo, as far as copyright goes, but retaining a
> trademark that they can use to prohibit misleading uses.
>
> (They do also have a "this logo is for official Debian use only" logo,
> but it's not the common one that is usually associated with the project.)
>
> See: http://www.debian.org/logos/
>
> IMO this is a much better way of handling it without inviting obvious
> discussions about consistency.
>
> -Mark
>
>
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