[Foundation-l] Does anyone else think bugzilla is a complete failure

Birgitte SB birgitte_sb at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 23 16:59:47 UTC 2006


How many months/years do you believe is a realistic
expectation?

Birgitte SB

--- GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hoi,
> Most of the developers are volunteers. There is
> certainly too much work in
> the first place. It is a stellar performance what so
> few people do with so
> little investment.
> 
> Their first priority is to keep the servers
> operational, combine this with
> the growth that we experience this is a big job.
> There are several big jobs
> that have been postponed time and again for many
> many months (think single
> login or the inclusion of software that has been
> programmed and is waiting
> for inclusion in the software).
> 
> When you find yourself a developer to program for
> you, it does not mean that
> the software will be accepted; the only thing
> achieved is that you are
> closer to getting it accepted. This is not to say
> that Bugzilla is busted,
> it is that your expectations are not compatible with
> reality.
> 
> PS when you expect developers to reply to your
> wishes, you have to realise
> that that too is work..
> 
> Thanks,
>        GerardM
> 
> 
> On 9/23/06, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > The subject line pretty much sums this note up.  I
> am
> > frustrated with the continued lack of development
> > support for anything where the propents are not
> > actually developers themselves.  I have aware for
> > sometime that asking for anything without
> uploading a
> > "patch" is absolutely useless.  So I accepted
> people
> > that don't know what a patch is are just screwed. 
> But
> > I have recently realized many of developments
> which
> > have never happened *did* have attachments (which
> I
> > think are "patches").  The bugzilla system really
> must
> > be broken.  Because how can these things just be
> > ignored for so long?  Here is the bug which had
> the
> > most effort invested in it from WS.
> >
> > http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4375
> >
> > This feature was so desired by people Wikisource a
> > show of support by 15 separte languages was
> > orchestrated hoping it would have some effect.
> >
> >
> >
>
http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Vote_on_enabling_the_ProtectSection_extension
> >
> > This was back in January.  Nothing ever happened. 
> The
> > underlying problem this feature would solve will
> now
> > hopefully be able to be addressed by "Stable
> version".
> > At least I hope "stable versions" will be
> workable.
> > But the last email about how de.WP wants a much
> more
> > complicated system for this worries me.
> >
> > There are other technical issues that have
> projects on
> > WS at a standstill.
> >
> > http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189
> >
> > http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5881
> >
> > I ask people online.   Bugs are filed.  Nothing
> > happens.  I do not want to make the effort to get
> all
> > sub-domains to show support for these new features
> > when it will have no effect.  I realize that the
> > developers are volunteers and are able to chose
> what
> > interests them and where they would like to work. 
> But
> > they do not even give any feedback or even tell us
> > they will not help us and we should learn to live
> > without it.  We just wait month upon month hoping
> it
> > is on someone's to-do list somewhere.  It is
> beyond
> > frustrating.  Has anyone else experienced these
> > problems?
> >
> >
> > Birgitte SB
> >
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