[Foundation-l] Does anyone else think bugzilla is a complete failure

GerardM gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Sat Sep 23 15:56:57 UTC 2006


Hoi,
Most of the developers are volunteers. There is certainly too much work in
the first place. It is a stellar performance what so few people do with so
little investment.

Their first priority is to keep the servers operational, combine this with
the growth that we experience this is a big job. There are several big jobs
that have been postponed time and again for many many months (think single
login or the inclusion of software that has been programmed and is waiting
for inclusion in the software).

When you find yourself a developer to program for you, it does not mean that
the software will be accepted; the only thing achieved is that you are
closer to getting it accepted. This is not to say that Bugzilla is busted,
it is that your expectations are not compatible with reality.

PS when you expect developers to reply to your wishes, you have to realise
that that too is work..

Thanks,
       GerardM


On 9/23/06, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> The subject line pretty much sums this note up.  I am
> frustrated with the continued lack of development
> support for anything where the propents are not
> actually developers themselves.  I have aware for
> sometime that asking for anything without uploading a
> "patch" is absolutely useless.  So I accepted people
> that don't know what a patch is are just screwed.  But
> I have recently realized many of developments which
> have never happened *did* have attachments (which I
> think are "patches").  The bugzilla system really must
> be broken.  Because how can these things just be
> ignored for so long?  Here is the bug which had the
> most effort invested in it from WS.
>
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4375
>
> This feature was so desired by people Wikisource a
> show of support by 15 separte languages was
> orchestrated hoping it would have some effect.
>
>
> http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Vote_on_enabling_the_ProtectSection_extension
>
> This was back in January.  Nothing ever happened.  The
> underlying problem this feature would solve will now
> hopefully be able to be addressed by "Stable version".
> At least I hope "stable versions" will be workable.
> But the last email about how de.WP wants a much more
> complicated system for this worries me.
>
> There are other technical issues that have projects on
> WS at a standstill.
>
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189
>
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5881
>
> I ask people online.   Bugs are filed.  Nothing
> happens.  I do not want to make the effort to get all
> sub-domains to show support for these new features
> when it will have no effect.  I realize that the
> developers are volunteers and are able to chose what
> interests them and where they would like to work.  But
> they do not even give any feedback or even tell us
> they will not help us and we should learn to live
> without it.  We just wait month upon month hoping it
> is on someone's to-do list somewhere.  It is beyond
> frustrating.  Has anyone else experienced these
> problems?
>
>
> Birgitte SB
>
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