[Foundation-l] Porchesia

James Hare messedrocker at gmail.com
Sun Oct 1 00:09:44 UTC 2006


Yeah... I was wondering meself why Danny posted this English Wikipedia info
on the Foundation List.

On 9/30/06, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I do agree with Gerad's ideas, but I also think this
> is not the place to be discussing what en.WP speedy
> deletion criteria should or should not be.  I have
> heard en.WP has an entire mailing list all to itself.
>
>
> Birgitte SB
>
> --Gerad's message--
> Hoi,
> We should before we want to even consider policies
> whereby sources are
> required consider what it would do to other projects.
> Many of the other
> projects do not have the maturity to follow the lead
> of the English
> Wikipedia they do not have sufficient content and
> burdening the content
> creation with this zeal would put a damper on the
> creation of new
> content. The idea that the English language sources
> are universally
> good
> is problematic as well.
>
> We should also consider how much work it is to source
> all the unsourced
> articles. I assume that the amount of time involved is
> such that it is
> not even feasible to source all English articles that
> do not have
> sources in half a year. When an article has one
> source, it does not
> follow that the article is sufficiently sourced.
> Uncompletely sourced
> articles are as bad or worse than articles that have
> not been sourced
> at
> all.
>
> I am afraid I could not disagree with you more.
>
> Thanks,
>     GerardM
>
>
> James Hare wrote:
> > Well, if we make it a new criterion, we shouldn't
> apply it
> retroactively. I
> > understand there was a time when sources didn't mean
> as much.
> >
> > As for the unsourced articles that currently exist,
> we could do some
> very
> > long PROD deal with it -- articles tagged as having
> zero sources have
> three
> > months to get at least ONE SOURCE for any part of
> the article before
> it
> > qualifies for speedy. That's a generous amount of
> time.
> >
> > On 9/30/06, George Herbert
> <george.herbert at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/30/06, James Hare <messedrocker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Let's mkae a new speedy criterion: if there's no
> sources, nuke it.
> With
> >>> fire.
> >>>
> >>> On 9/30/06, daniwo59 at aol.com <daniwo59 at aol.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I have just deleted an article, [[Porchesia]].
> Any admins are
> welcome
> >>>>
> >> to
> >>
> >>>> read the history. It was created in November.
> >>>>
> >>>> Problem is, there is no such place.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hmmm.
> >>>>
> >>>> Danny
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