[Foundation-l] Cherokee Wikipedia Name Suggestion
Oldak Quill
oldakquill at gmail.com
Wed Jul 12 16:46:55 UTC 2006
How amusing!
For a language like Cherokee then (agglutinative), it seems
appropriate to not use transliteration.
Thinking about agglutinative languages, do you know what the Japanese
Wikipedia is called (I would imagine that it too avoids
transliteration).
On 12/07/06, Jeffrey V. Merkey <jmerkey at wolfmountaingroup.com> wrote:
> Oldak Quill wrote:
>
> >Most Wikimedia projects don't translate "Wikipedia", "Wiktionary", and
> >"Wikimedia", they transliterate them. Even non-Latin alphabets do
> >this: Russian Wikipedia is called "Википедию" which transliterates as
> >Ve-I-Ka-I-Pe-Ye-De-I-Ya (those are the names of the letters, at
> >least). Does Cherokee have some kind of formal transliteration system?
> >
> >On 12/07/06, Jeffrey V. Merkey <jmerkey at wolfmountaingroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>The name should be:
> >>
> >>ᏗᎪᏪᎵ ᎦᏣᏄᎳ
> >>
> >>(digoweli gatsanula)
> >>"the books = pedia " " that are fast = wiki "
> >>
> >>to match the actual meanings of the words "wiki" and "pedia".
> >>
> >>The current name of the site, while catchy, is not accurate for the
> >>language, and was synthesized.
> >>
> >>Just a suggestion...
> >>
> >>Jeff
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> Yes. it does have one for words like this, but taking potshots at the
> name can create something you do not intend.
>
> Let's look at it:
>
> Wi-gi-que-di-ya
>
> wi - (negative imperfect past tense)
> gi - to combine
> que - incomplete verb root about an animal
> di - plural for a non living object
> ya - broad area of concern (means "pertains to or covers a broad area or
> topic)
>
> Not to mention "di" is always at the start of a pural word, "gi" is a
> modifier always at the end of a word, que isn't a word at all, and "wi"
> is a tense modifer always at the end of word.
>
> Translation:
>
> "Something very negative in the past was put together for (??? -
> something that resembles a contraction of the word nesgi which means
> keep your hands off of it) , and there were a bunch of them (di) that
> dwell in a large area.
>
> In other words, its current name implies "negative place to keep your
> hands off of and there's a whole bunch of us here".
>
> Based on the edit history of the site, seems to have been the course
> followed. Perhaps we should change its name?
>
> Jeff
>
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