[Foundation-l] English Wikipedia ethnocentric policy affects other communities

Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongminh at gmail.com
Fri Dec 22 22:23:13 UTC 2006


Please note that you cannot just remove a policy without further
discussion. Gmaxwell did not revert the change because he disagreed
with it content, but rather because he felt that you can not change a
policy without discussion. Unfortunately some people seem to deny
discussion, because they feel that the only way to change is screaming
on the list that en is 'ethnocentric' without any contributions to the


On 12/22/06, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Gregory Maxwell schreef:
> > On 12/22/06, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The en.WP Username policy has been changed.
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Username&curid=168684&diff=95920637&oldid=95900078
> >>
> >
> > Unfortunatly, it was changed without any valid basis.
> >
> > It is not acceptable to remove longstanding policy simply because some
> > people on a mailing list decided to speculate randomly and accuse
> > enwiki of "ethnocentricism" without substantiation.
> >
> > As a result I've reverted the change and contributed some suggestions
> > to the talk page.
> >
> > I agree that the policy should be *improved* to address the real
> > concerns brought up, and to be more friendly to users who work across
> > many languages.  Simply removing the section does not, however,
> > address the very real issues which caused the creation of the policy
> > in the first place.
> Hoi,
> Some people congratulated me with the outcome of this affair. My
> reaction was that it did not feel like a victory because I feel bruised
> by the experience. Having said this, your suggestion that there has been
> no substantiation about the grievance that was put forward is seriously
> wrong. The notion that it is up to you to revert this change continues
> to make this affair even more painful. Simply reverting this change and
> thereby denying that many of the reasons why this policy was put in
> place is seriously wrong.
> I have to say I am increasingly upset by this affair.
> Thanks,
>      GerardM
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