[Foundation-l] Re: Swedish, Spanish, French Wikinews set up

[Anthere]

Erik Moeller a écrit:
> Elian -
> 
>> I didn't see a reaction from the board to your announcement that 
>> nl.wikinews was set up. You seem to confuse not reacting with having 
>> no objections or "being happy".
> 
> 
> I did speak to both Jimmy and Angela about it before I set it up, and 
> they were OK with launching it. I could not reach Anthere, that's why I 
> first only set up nl.wikinews.org to give her a chance to react. 
> Technically, I did not need to speak to any of them, since the policy 
> was already agreed upon.

I can be reached any time by email. I check it dozens of time per day, 
even during work hours.
My mail adress is anthere at wikimedia.org.

I am also often on irc, though admitedly not at the same hours you are, 
since I am at work during the day.

I also check my user pages on meta, fr and en everyday.

I had no reason to comment on nl creation. Dutch editors supported 
greatly the wikinews. Obviously, there was already a high enough number 
of editors to take care of it nicely.
When I was in Rotterdam, I talked with Puck on this matter, and he made 
important comments about it I think. I know there are several seriously 
involved people working on it. So, there is no comparison.

My issue with fr is not a global one, and Elian is correct in saying 
this is not a board issue I am trying to raise here. The global 
community supported the project, the board approved the project, so this 
is just enough. The board is not concerned any more now.

I talk just as an editor.
An editor who just know that there was no global support in the french 
speaking community (so, it would probably have deserved talking to the 
community first)
and who know the 5 editors requirements is counting editors who are not 
french speaking, or not very active or just not active anymore (so, I 
question the validity of this requirement and question the ability of 
wikinews to function and build a nice community on these basis).
and the day of its creation, it was not even labelled as a beta site.

I know some people are working on it, but it is different from new 
language wikipedias. All the rules are still to set up. It will take 
time to do so.

I think we should favor a down top approach. Which means people (enough 
people) should be asking for a wiki. Not the top down approach where one 
person decide which languages are ready to start.

I remember frequent calls on the mailing list, for the setting up of 
french wiktionary for example. You could hear the people asking for it. 
Asking and asking and asking again. You then know editors badly want it.
Here, I heard nothing at all.



Anthere