[Commons-l] Fwd: [Gendergap] Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

Tue May 17 16:07:18 UTC 2011

--- On Tue, 17/5/11, Tobias Oelgarte <tobias.oelgarte at googlemail.com> wrote:
If we buy this contributions with a loss of liberty. Then yes.
    Nothing is as worthy as liberty.

There is more than one way to view this. 
One could equally say that the price we are paying for having your images is the loss offreedom to put a truly educational image on the main page. It is embarrassment for Johnand Craig. It includes that people who could provide tremendous support to our projectmay not provide it, resulting in the loss of hundreds of thousands of images more valuableand notable than your original art, and a perception of Foundation projects as puerile and notworthy of serious attention. 
But then you think Commons is "bullshit" anyway -- apart from the fact that it gives you aplatform to broadcast your fan art to the world, and shout "censorship". 
Andreas

    Am 17.05.2011 10:22, schrieb Gnangarra:
    Is this picture worth more than 137,000 news images, 

      Is this picture worth the loss of xontributions from GLAM
      organisations

      Is this picture worth the cost of denying other contributors the
      opportunity to participate.

      On 17 May 2011 16:16, Tobias Oelgarte <tobias.oelgarte at googlemail.com>
        wrote:

          Am 17.05.2011 02:34, schrieb Neil Kandalgaonkar:

          > On 5/16/11 8:21 PM, Cary Bass wrote:

            >> We need an active group of contributors who
            represent at the very least

            >> some cross-section of not only Commons contributors
            but of interested

            >> re-users of Commons content to actively monitor and
            maintain the POTD.

            >> This is not the first time that something
            inappropriate for Main Page

            >> content has appeared and I doubt it will be the
            last.

            > That is definitely a practical solution. POTD are
            scheduled long in

            > advance, so that could solve the problems here pretty
            quickly. The image

            > in question is, IMO, unambiguously inappropriate for
            Commons, and this

            > shouldn't have been a difficult debate.

            >

            > On the other hand it feels a bit wrong to me. In that
            case we're asking

            > groups that are relatively underrepresented in Wiki
            culture to take on

            > the role of policing. I feel like they ought to have
            some rights to a

            > welcoming environment as a baseline. That said, in a
            wiki context, it

            > seems to be impossible to achieve such baseline
            freedoms, as long as the

            > offenders have large amounts of free time.

            >

            > So some people are going to have to make the sacrifices
            to change the

            > culture.

            >

            > Another worry: if there's a "quality control board",
            officially or

            > unofficially, they can start to take that role too
            seriously or become

            > captured by various radical factions. But I guess we
            have to take that

            > chance.

            >

            >

          Another board for decisions? Just leave the communities alone.
          They can

          handle it very well on their own. Any board i know failed in
          so many

          points. An good example from the German Wikipedia is the

          "Schiedsgericht". This is the last call if some users can't be
          stopped

          from offending each other. But this board isn't trusted at all
          and

          constantly breaks down. Just because it is seen as needless.

          What im seeing here is the construction of an government which
          isn't

          even democratic, getting very close to a dictatorship. Or as
          we said in

          the GDR: One party, elected by itself.

            Tobias

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