[Commons-l] revoking licenses /user-request-deletions

[Rama Neko]

The quality certainly does influence the decision, in the sense that
if I see a pile of, say, blurry photographs of cats, I will shortcut
all the decision process and delete right away, knowing that we have
better in store.

That was the essence of my remark: depending on the quality of the
images in question and the ease with which they can be replaced or
redone (assuming they are used at all), it might not even be worth
bothering to think a lot.
We can make someone happy (or at least avoid further annoying a
disgruntled user) while sparing ourselves the questions on legality
and principles.

-- Rama






On 17/09/2008, Andrew Gray <shimgray at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/9/17 ABF <wikipediabaeren at gmx.de>:
>
>> Yesterday there was a user who clearly wants all of his Images yust to
>> have all his Images gone and after we opposed his CSD-request he yust
>> said "My father/sister/whatever took the Image, so its unfree" and we
>> had to delete them all.
>>
>> I belive we should get a clear consenus about this. (For example
>> blocking in cases as above!?) Do you have any Ideas?
>
> When it's someone who's just decided they don't want to play any more,
> and where it's just them storming off and demanding we delete
> everything as they go, we can justify a somewhat blunt response
> (though I might not go as far as Stan's approach!). Compare enwp's
> response to "delete all my contributions, I don't like this project
> any more" requests.
>
> I think we do need to be careful not to assume such a request is
> *always* bad faith, and should *always* be blocked and refused -
> there are entirely legitimate circumstances where someone could
> discover that they don't actually own the copyrights to a set of
> images they thought they did, and in such cases, I think we'd have to
> be helpful and (if at all possible) not punish them for an honest
> error!
>
> Consider if someone stands up and says something like "I took these
> whilst working, and I didn't realise until today that under my
> contract, my employer owns the rights"; or perhaps "My grandfather
> took these pictures, and I thought I inherited the rights, but it
> turns out someone else did". These cases aren't the same as storming
> off in a pique, but they could easily look like it, especially if the
> person making the request is upset over it or if there are language
> difficulties.
>
> A more marginal case would be someone who hasn't suddenly decided they
> don't want to play any more (like our original, *but* has just
> realised that the GFDL or a Creative Commons license wasn't quite what
> they thought it was.
>
> I'm sure most of us would delete a single image for those reasons if
> the uploader came to us fifteen minutes after uploading and said "oh,
> look, I'm really sorry, but I didn't quite think this through..." -
> would we do it after a day? a week? a year? How about if it was two
> images, ten images, a hundred? Does the quality or rarity of them
> influence our decision?
>
> At some point in this, it goes from being reasonable to unreasonable,
> and I don't think we can draw a general line very easily - it really
> does boil down to whether or not the person seems like they're being
> silly.
>
> --
> - Andrew Gray
>  andrew.gray at dunelm.org.uk
>
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