[Advocacy Advisors] freedom of panorama

Wed Jun 24 16:17:44 UTC 2015

hi micheal,

should we add a special use cases to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-06-17/In_focus
eg "can I upload my photos to facebook?" "no because according to
2.1..."

but in this specific case I assume that facebook/google/... has
collective agreements with all authors/architects associations.

michal

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 04:57:05PM +0100, Michael Maggs wrote:
> The argument that personal Facebook uploads are 'non-commercial' does not
> hold water.
> 
> Any private individual who uploads personal photographs to a social media
> website will be affected, as most sites require users to warrant that their
> uploads do not not infringe the intellectual property rights of any third
> party. Anybody using social media to share even private photographs that
> include a modern building or streetscape within the view will be in breach
> of the warranty and will be at significant legal risk.
> 
> Also, many websites state in their small print that uploads are
> automatically licensed to the site owner under a worldwide non-exclusive
> licence for any purpose (even commercial). Uploaders will not be in a
> position to  grant such a licence, as they will no longer be the sole
> copyright owner of their own photographs.
> 
> The relevant clauses in the Facebook legal terms can be found here:
> https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms
> 
>  * 2.1    For content that is covered by intellectual property rights,
>    like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the
>    following permission, subject to your privacy
>    <https://www.facebook.com/privacy/> and application settings
>    <https://www.facebook.com/settings/?tab=applications>: you grant us
>    a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free,
>    worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in
>    connection with Facebook (IP License).
> 
>  * 5.1    You will not post content or take any action on Facebook that
>    infringes or violates someone else's rights or otherwise violates
>    the law.
> 
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> >Jan Loužek <mailto:jan.louzek at wikimedia.cz>
> >24 June 2015 14:07
> >
> >He has to be convinced then that the commercial sharing is not as simple
> >issue as it is believed by Svoboda.
> >
> >https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Defining_Noncommercial Here. 18 MB
> >of freading, cca 250 pages.
> >
> >Jan
> >
> >______________________________________________________________
> >> Od: Michal Palenik <michal at palenik.sk>
> >> Komu: Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov at gmail.com>
> >> Datum: 24.06.2015 14:51
> >> Předmět: Re: freedom of panorama
> >>
> >
> >i've contacted
> >ŠTEFANEC Ivan <ivan.stefanec at europarl.europa.eu>
> >with some mixed results.
> >
> >he believes in press release by pavel svoboda
> >http://us9.campaign-archive2.com/?u=0519b32bd74df1cad7d02aa01&id=3d98dde117 <http://us9.campaign-archive2.com/?u=0519b32bd74df1cad7d02aa01&id=3d98dde117>
> >which says that "of course, facebook photos are non commercial". which
> >i doubt.
> >
> >but after a second email:
> >
> >Každopádne je jasné, že presadzujem slobodu šírenia záberov okolia bez
> >obmedzenia a podľa toho budem aj hlasovať.
> >
> >It is evident, that I acitvelly support
> >freedom of spreading of panorama photos without (any) restrictions and
> >I will vote according to this.
> >
> >michal
> >
> >On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:04:39AM +0200, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov wrote:
> >> I was offering Schaake (ALDE NL) one and she said she's rwady to
> >coordinate
> >> if no one else wants.
> >>
> >> Perhaps you can ask then to either join her effort or to take it up
> >> themselves. Will send you the AM text, but Schaake still hasn't tabled
> >it.
> >>
> >> Dimi
> >>
> >> На сряда, 24 юни 2015 г. Michal Palenik <michal at palenik.sk> написа:
> >> > hi, is the amendment for the plenary ready? I am contacting our MEPs..
> >> >
> >> > m
> >> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 10:01:58AM +0200, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
> >wrote:
> >> >> The amendment was adopted with a vast majority (EPP and S&D votes) by
> >the
> >> >> JURI committee, so it is already in the text. We're now trying to get
> >an
> >> >> amendment in for the plenary vote. This requires 75 MEPs to co-sign
> >it.
> >> We
> >> >> need especially EPP ones to help it to send a message. If you could
> >find
> >> >> some from SK, that would be awesome!
> >> >>
> >> >> As for a press release, the EN signpost article is very
> >comprehensive:
> >> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-06-17/In_focus
> >> >>
> >> >> 2015-06-19 9:27 GMT+02:00 Michal Palenik <michal at palenik.sk>:
> >> >>
> >> >> > ok,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > just to clarify:
> >> >> > it is "just" a yet unvoted on ammendmend by a MEP?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > is there a good press release? i would not want it to by "yet
> >another
> >> >> > stupid thing done by brussels bureocracy".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > michal
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:26:38PM +0200, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
> >> wrote:
> >> >> > > Yes, I forgot to cc you in the main talk and you're probably not
> >on
> >> the
> >> >> > > advocacy advisors mailing list. We need three things:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > -Media noise in each member state
> >> >> > > -MEPs from each country to co-sign an amendment proposal from
> >plenary
> >> >> > > -Find coalition partners that can help us do the first two.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I am putting Jan Louzek from WMCZ in cc. He's done an outstanding
> >job
> >> >> > there
> >> >> > > to make noise and hopefully can help give WMSK some tips how we
> >can
> >> do
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > > same in SK.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Dimi
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > 2015-06-18 23:20 GMT+02:00 Michal Palenik <michal at palenik.sk>:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > hi
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > there is a big big talk about freedom of panorama ban by
> >european
> >> >> > > > parliament. are there any things we can do to avoid it? or is
> >it
> >> just
> >> >> > > > panicing?
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > ammendemt 421 by jean marie cavada
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >
> >> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FNONSGML%20COMPARL%20PE-549.469%2001%20DOC%20PDF%20V0%2F%2FEN
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > michal
> >> >> > > > --
> >> >> > > > michal palenik
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > michal palenik
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > michal palenik
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >-- 
> >michal palenik
> >
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michal palenik