[Advocacy Advisors] Questions to the European Commission

Lodewijk lodewijk at effeietsanders.org
Thu Nov 13 10:51:50 UTC 2014


Just as a sidenote, dont forget that our italian and greek (!) friends also
have this non- copyright law that requires govt permission to publish
photos of old stuff. Might impact wording.
On Nov 13, 2014 9:06 AM, "Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov" <
dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi again,
>
> after the first round of talks passed, here's some interim notes and
> thoughts I've had so far:
>
> 1. The Commission is rather willing to talk openly about PDGov and FoP
>
> 2. On PDGov it is not sure whether it can be included in a Directive
> (which is aimed at member states). More likely if it is a regulation. If it
> is a non-legislative took, it is clear that it must be something bigger
> than the current re-use decision, which isn't really implemented and
> doesn't secure the upstream content to be free (i.e. bought content must be
> procured to be under a free license)
>
> 3. The standard initial reaction to exceptions remains NC. We must put
> some effort to remedy that and always (!) explain why NC doesn't work. I am
> always giving out the relevant brochure.
>
> 4. We must figure out how much money Belgian, French and Italian
> collecting societies make by licensing postcards of buildings, if any at
> all. If it is astonishingly low, we'd have an even better case.
>
> 5. What makes people in Brussels more weary in general is that things tend
> to get blocked by the member states. Looking at FoP, it would be good to
> get into position to lobby especially Belgium, France and Italy.
>
> 6. Anyone knows the history of FoP and what the historical arguments for
> its introduction were? I was asked about it directly already. I found some
> Bavarian law from 1840 as the first example, I assume it was about giving
> painters the freedom to pain public squares...
>
> I would expect a legislative text before summer and some time spend on
> figuring out how the two relevant Commissioners will interact.
>
> Cheers,
> Dimi
>
> 2014-11-07 16:29 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov at gmail.com>:
>
>> Oh, here the Link:
>>
>> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/EuropeanCommissionMeetings
>>
>> Greetz from Warsaw
>>
>> 2014-11-07 16:20 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> since we're trying to be the most transparent thing out there let's give
>>> it a shot without password protection. I mean, the question we want to ask
>>> aren't a secret. Maybe some of the answers will be, but we can deal with
>>> that when we get there.
>>>
>>> I set up an etherpad with some notes. Feel free to add/edit/remove
>>> questions/comments and of course re-shuffle the order. It is hard to
>>> preview how a conversation will go, but it helps having a pool of good
>>> ideas and spot on questions in your arsenal.
>>>
>>> Thanks for participating!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dimi
>>>
>>> 2014-11-07 9:59 GMT+01:00 Jens Best <jens.best at wikimedia.de>:
>>>
>>>> etherpad would be great.
>>>>
>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org doesn't offer pw-protection, but then
>>>> again, collecting questions there isn't really much more public then doing
>>>> it here on this mailinglist.
>>>>
>>>> Jens
>>>>
>>>> 2014-11-07 9:55 GMT+01:00 L.Gelauff <lgelauff at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> if you have already a list of questions/topics, it would be easier to
>>>>> spot gaps. Maybe start an etherpad or something (assuming you want it
>>>>> nonpublic)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lodewijk
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
>>>>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> next week I am having three meetings in the European Commission lined
>>>>>> up: copyright unit, counterfeiting&piracy unit and the cabinet of
>>>>>> Jean-Claude Juncker. The main reason I was scheduled is our position paper
>>>>>> on EU copyright reform, which will, presumably, also be the main focus of
>>>>>> the conversation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to ask this group if there are any specific questions you'd
>>>>>> like me to ask? Any concrete examples or issues you'd like raised? Of
>>>>>> course, I can't promise I'll get the chance to ask everything, but I can
>>>>>> try. Also, chances are that someone here has much better questions than me
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Dimi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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